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Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover)
Date 2025-07-04 08:22 +0200
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Am Donnerstag000003, 03.07.2025 um 01:57 schrieb Bertitaylor:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 12:41:33 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
> 
>> Den 29.06.2025 06:18, skrev Bertitaylor:
>>>> Am Samstag000028, 28.06.2025 um 14:47 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:
>>>>> Den 28.06.2025 01:49, skrev Bertitaylor:
>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 19:57:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One question:
>>>>>>> What created the elements you and I and everything around us
>>>>>>> consist of?
>>>>>>> The Devine Arindam?
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heard of eternity? It all was always there, is, and will be.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am asking YOU, Bertitaylor:
>>>>>
>>>>> How do YOU think U-238 and other heavy elements were created?
>>
>>>
>>> Supernovas where lots of electrons or protons fly and create heavy
>>> nuclei.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> So you have realised that you were wrong when you claimed that
>> all elements "was always there, is, and will be."
> 
> Yes. All matter changes as per chemical and nuclear reactions from
> aetheric vibrations and electric forces.
>>
>> So you have finally admitted to being wrong.
> 
> No. Matter change has nothing to do with big bangs and black holes and
> e=mcc stuff.
>>


Actually it has...

I have invented this concept, which I called 'structured spacetime':

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

I wanted to put GR and QM into a single framework and thought, that 
matter should be 'relative'.

My idea is actually quite simple, but based upon unusual assumptions.

I use spacetime of GR as kind of 'background' and call 'timelike stable 
patterns' 'matter'.

Iow: matter for one observer is not matter for another observer.

This would de-materialize the concept of particles and assumes, that 
particles are actually certain 'structures'.

Now we could alter the axis of time (in theory) and could create by this 
method all sorts of cosmological phenomena like black-holes or big-bangs.



>>
>> Creation of iron and heavier elements by fusion doesn't release
>> energy, it uses energy, so these elements can only be created
>> in cataclysmic events where energy is abundant.
> 
> 
> Most iron was always there. Sometimes it may get upgraded to other
> elements, then radioactive decay brings that down.
> 
Astonishingly the heavier elements are found near the surface of planet 
Earth.

This would require, that matter could age and build heavier elements 
from lighter ones over time.

The reason:

according to the current paradigm ('accretion hypothesis') the Earth was 
formed by a gravitational collapse of large amounts of dust.

The result was entirely molten in the early stage.

But that would have allowed the heavier elements to sink into the lower 
levels of the Earth.

But we actually find Lead, Gold and Uranium quite high in the crust 
(like in mountains).

So, these metals could not have been there when Earth was molten, hence 
must have aged sind the creation of their plate.


  ...


TH

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Dark  matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-19 12:15 +0000
  Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-19 21:01 +0200
    Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-20 08:01 +0200
      Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Patric Wojewódzki <jiid@oei.pl> - 2025-06-20 17:24 +0000
      Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-06-21 18:36 -0600
        Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-22 12:12 +0200
      Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-23 03:47 +0000
        Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-23 20:54 +0200
          Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-23 23:37 +0000
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-25 19:14 +0200
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 10:30 -0700
              Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-06-26 07:15 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-26 06:06 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-26 15:23 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Lon Mahankov <mklanh@amolmank.ru> - 2025-06-26 20:47 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 03:47 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:37 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:44 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 22:47 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 06:40 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 23:54 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 12:27 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:32 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-26 23:56 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 00:13 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-28 19:04 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 02:49 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-28 21:21 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 10:16 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-04 15:19 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:25 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 00:18 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 18:45 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 21:36 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 10:44 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:19 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-27 21:57 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Dekota Hamaev <te@etat.ru> - 2025-06-27 22:31 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 23:49 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) - 2025-06-28 03:28 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-28 06:29 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 13:19 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 14:44 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-29 05:58 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 13:37 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-29 07:31 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-29 18:30 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Martino Krakowski <wwkoo@iiir.pl> - 2025-06-29 17:27 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 23:10 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-29 22:22 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 22:20 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-29 15:58 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-30 20:18 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-30 23:52 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 18:23 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-02 19:20 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-02 19:46 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 00:13 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-03 10:43 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 12:30 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-05 11:16 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Kerwin Baklanov <oanwan@waoanro.ru> - 2025-06-30 13:49 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 00:55 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 01:42 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-02 20:34 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 22:20 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 18:31 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-01 02:27 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-30 20:39 -0700
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-28 14:47 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-29 06:01 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:20 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:18 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-06-29 14:41 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 23:57 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-04 08:22 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-04 21:51 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Truman Agamov <rruaau@ar.ru> - 2025-07-04 22:00 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-05 09:44 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-05 09:32 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-08 09:30 +0200
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-10 23:32 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-03 14:06 +0000
          Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-06-24 10:48 +1000
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 01:41 +0000
          Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 06:20 +0000
            Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-06-24 08:51 +0100
              Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-24 08:41 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-06-24 11:26 +0100
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-24 10:43 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Krishna Abdulaev <la@vadalibh.ru> - 2025-06-24 17:55 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-25 00:22 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Reed Kawashima <ahhsa@kasir.jp> - 2025-06-25 13:28 +0000
                Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 23:46 +0000
  Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-06-29 12:26 +0800
    Re: Dark matter is the core of stars (minus hydrogen cover) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-29 04:42 +0000

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