Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject	Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"
Date	2025-06-19 09:58 +0200
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Am Mittwoch000018, 18.06.2025 um 18:30 schrieb OrigInfoJunkie:
> On 6/18/2025 1:07 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Montag000016, 16.06.2025 um 18:46 schrieb The Starmaker:
>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're German? Can you explain to me why Israel today  doesn't want
>>>>>> Germany to posses nucluer weapons????
>>>>>
>>>>> Atomic bombs were actually invented in Germany.
>>>>> (what they told you in school was more or less a lie)
>>>>>
>>>>> But Germans don't like atomic bombs, because they are difficult to use
>>>>> and extremely expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually atomic bombs cannot be used properly and if the enemy has 
>>>>> them,
>>>>> too, they are practically useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> But Germans could most likely build them, supposed they wanted to.
>>>>
>>>> Of course the Germans were the first to invent the atomic bomb...it
>>>> was invented by a German, living in Germany and his name was...Albert
>>>> Einstein.
>>>>
>>>> he just continued his invention with his German friends in the USA!
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's not forget real History...
>>>
>>> it was Einstein who said:
>>>
>>> "If I had foreseen Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I would have torn up my
>>> formula in 1905." - Albert Einstein
>>
>> E=m* c² was known before Einstein.
> 
> Wrong.
> 
>>>
>>> His formula for the atomic bomb was invented in 1905 in Germany!
>>> Published in German!! Written in Geramn!!!
>>>
>>> The Germans invented the fucking atomic bomb
> 
> They did not.
> 
>>> ...Einstein and his friends
>>> were those  Germans!
>>>
>> Leo Szillar was actually an Hungarian and Einstein most like Swiss.
> 
> Einstein was not born Swiss. He was a German Jew. He relinquished his 
> German citizenship in 1896. He acquired Swiss citizenship in 1901 at the 
> age of 21 (approaching age 22). He reacquired German (Prussian) 
> citizenship in 1914, but later renounced it again.

The is the official CV, but i had doubts about its authenticity.

In my view the official story was totally impossible.

E.g. the family Einstein went from Ulm to Munich with Albert as an infant.

Then they went from Munich to Pavia, Italy, but leaving their eldest son 
behind in Munich (as a teenager!).

(To me this sounded, at least, rather strange.)

Then Albert left Munich, too, denounced his German citizenship and 
reunited with his family in Pavia.

BUT: Germans were and are a little picky about what childs could do and 
what they can't do.

Denouncing their citizenship was most likely not allowed, until the 
teenager gets 'volljährig' at the age of 21 (today that is 18).

So A.E. could not denounce his citizenship, unless he would be older 
than 21.

Also unusual: Einstein denounced German citizenship without acquiring 
any other. This is illegal in Germany. I actually don't know, whether or 
not that was illegal in the former German Empire, too, but would guess 
that wasn't allowed then neither.

After getting to Pavia Albert stayed there for some time (official stay 
was 3 month, while the neighboring Jesuit facility writes on their 
webpage, that Einstein lived next door for an entire year).

But for that entire period of time he didn't go to school, even if that 
would have been mandatory.

Later he went to Aarau, Switzerland, and visited school their (alone 
again, without family).

This would raise two problems:
how did he get permit to stay?
how did he support his life alone in a foreign country?

Later Einstein went to the prestigious university ETH in Zurich, still 
as stateless alien.

But how did he do that and why was he allowed to attend that university 
by Swiss authorities?

Later he became member of the staff of the Swiss patent bureau in Bern.

That was even stranger, because the Swiss used the concept called 
'Beamter' in the German speaking world.

This is a special status of the employees of the state and usually only 
accessible for born citizens.

Now: ALL of the problems above could be easily solved, if we assume, 
that Einstein was actually Swiss and his name was not 'Einstein' and 
(most likely) he wasn't a Jew.

Also a hint:

Einstein spoke three languages of Switzerland (German, French, Italien) 
fluently, but failed to learn English in ten years at Princeton.

TH

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