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| From | Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> |
| Date | 2015-06-02 19:39 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: should "self" be changed? |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Message-ID | <mailman.89.1433295614.13271.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info>: > >> On Fri, 29 May 2015 12:00 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> [...] >>> in a language where classes are >>> themselves values, there is no reason why a class must be instantiated, >>> particularly if you're only using a single instance of the class. Anyone >>> ever come across a named design pattern that involves using classes >>> directly without instantiating them? >>> >>> I'm basically looking for a less inelegant term for "instanceless class" >>> -- not so much a singleton as a zeroton. >> >> C# has these, and calls them static classes. > > I guess Python has them, too, and calls them modules. Indeed. I find it amusing that C# has special syntax to work around what is ostensibly a design feature -- that all code must be contained in a class (or struct). But then, the same practice also exists in Java, where there is no specific syntax for it.
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should "self" be changed? zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-26 09:37 -0700
Re: should "self" be changed? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-05-26 18:57 +0200
Re: should "self" be changed? zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-26 20:01 -0700
Re: should "self" be changed? zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-26 20:15 -0700
Re: should "self" be changed? Laurent Pointal <laurent.pointal@free.fr> - 2015-05-26 18:59 +0200
Re: should "self" be changed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-26 18:28 +0100
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Re: should "self" be changed? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-05-27 14:39 +1000
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Re: should "self" be changed? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-06-02 19:39 -0600
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Re: should "self" be changed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-26 21:45 +0100
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