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Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism
Date 2014-01-20 16:56 -0500
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On 1/20/2014 9:08 AM, Roy Smith wrote:

> That's a little harsh.  Working in groups, and sharing code, are
> important parts of how software gets developed today.  Those
> collaborative work habits should indeed be taught.

Until recently, teaching collaboration through group projects has had 
the problem of leeching. Asking group members to grade each other's 
participation and contributions does not work too well. My daughter ran 
into this problem in her first programming class where 
private-until-done 'group' work was too much her work. In her second 
class, there was discussion of each other's coding problems *in the 
class*, in front of the teacher, and she enjoyed that much more.

It is now possible to run collaboration through software that records 
interaction. My daughter took a composition class where discussion and 
review of each other's work was recorded and contributed to each 
person's grade. But this was not collaborative writing, which would be 
another level of interaction, and one which is common beyond college 
classes.

A programming class (probably best after the first) could use a real 
(meaning, used outside of classes) repository and tracker. *That* would 
better prepare people for later work, whether on a job or as an 
open-source volunteer.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 14:21 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-18 17:27 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 14:32 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-18 17:35 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 09:42 +1100
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-19 09:59 +1100
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-19 06:31 +0000
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 22:45 -0800
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 21:21 -0800
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 17:21 +1100
        Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-20 09:08 -0500
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 08:11 -0800
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-20 16:56 -0500
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-21 00:47 +0000
            Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 10:32 +0000
              Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-01-21 13:49 +0000
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-20 18:39 +1100
        Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 23:55 -0800
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-20 19:17 +1100
            Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-22 00:51 +0000
              Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 19:01 -0800
                Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-21 22:46 -0500
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:48 +1100
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism bryan rasmussen <rasmussen.bryan@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 10:19 +0100
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-20 09:36 +0000
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-22 00:01 +0000
        Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-22 00:51 +0000
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-01-22 13:34 +0000
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 18:59 +1100
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-20 19:10 +1100
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-19 09:57 +1100
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 16:22 +0000
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 00:36 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-22 08:53 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:48 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-23 00:01 +0000
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 00:39 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:33 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-22 22:36 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:46 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:50 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:53 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 09:09 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-01-22 14:19 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 23:46 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-23 20:26 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 23:57 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 01:46 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 02:10 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 13:15 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-01-23 13:28 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 13:34 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-01-23 13:49 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 13:56 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2014-01-24 15:13 +0100
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 19:15 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 21:57 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-24 08:13 +0000
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 23:14 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-24 09:01 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism bob gailer <bgailer@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 18:42 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-24 19:42 -0500

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