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Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism

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Date 2014-01-20 18:59 +1100
Subject Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> But sometimes different skills are being examined, and the student
> should be exercising skills on their own without basing it directly on
> the work of others. In these cases, penalties for plagiarism are
> appropriate, would you agree?

If Fred writes something and Bill copies it without acknowledging
Fred's work, then Bill should be penalized. That much is clear. That
aligns well with the requirement to see what each student can
accomplish, and with standard copyright law (including open source,
where requirement-to-acknowledge is a common part of both licensing
and courtesy). But why should Fred be punished? What has he done
wrong? If it can be proven that Fred wrote the code (granted, that's
hard to prove, but providing each student with a git/hg repo to push
code to every day would make it easier), he should be graded on that
code and not on the fact that someone else ripped it off.

When it's less clear who copied from whom, I can understand issuing
across-the-board penalties in the interests of fairness (and because
the effort of figuring out who wrote what isn't worth it), but I'd say
it's a compromise for simplicity rather than justifiable punishment on
someone who published code.

ChrisA

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Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 14:21 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-18 17:27 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 14:32 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-18 17:35 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 09:42 +1100
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-19 09:59 +1100
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-19 06:31 +0000
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 22:45 -0800
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 21:21 -0800
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 17:21 +1100
        Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-20 09:08 -0500
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 08:11 -0800
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-01-20 16:56 -0500
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-21 00:47 +0000
            Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 10:32 +0000
              Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-01-21 13:49 +0000
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-20 18:39 +1100
        Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 23:55 -0800
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-20 19:17 +1100
            Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-22 00:51 +0000
              Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 19:01 -0800
                Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-01-21 22:46 -0500
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:48 +1100
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism bryan rasmussen <rasmussen.bryan@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 10:19 +0100
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-20 09:36 +0000
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-22 00:01 +0000
        Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-22 00:51 +0000
          Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-01-22 13:34 +0000
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 18:59 +1100
      Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-20 19:10 +1100
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-01-19 09:57 +1100
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 16:22 +0000
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 00:36 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-22 08:53 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:48 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-23 00:01 +0000
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 00:39 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:33 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-22 22:36 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:46 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:50 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 08:53 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 09:09 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-01-22 14:19 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 23:46 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-23 20:26 -0500
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 23:57 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 01:46 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 02:10 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 13:15 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-01-23 13:28 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 13:34 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-01-23 13:49 -0800
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 13:56 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2014-01-24 15:13 +0100
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 19:15 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 21:57 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-24 08:13 +0000
  Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism indar kumar <indarkumar59@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 23:14 -0800
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-24 09:01 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism bob gailer <bgailer@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 18:42 -0500
    Re: Can post a code but afraid of plagiarism Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-01-24 19:42 -0500

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