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Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener

From Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener
Date 2016-03-16 00:31 +0000
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Hi Chris,

On 15/03/16 23:48, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I agree, it's a risk. Any indirection adds that. So the benefit has to
> be weighed against this inherent cost.

True, so it's not URL shorteners that I disagree with on principle, it's 
the _inappropriate_ use of URL shorteners ;) If one uses them on fora 
such as this which could be expected to exist for some considerable time 
then it's an issue. Elsewhere, then yes, the linking service may not 
last as long as the shortening service ...

>  I often like to make a small
> change when I reimplement, though - something that I thought was
> ill-designed in the original,

OK, so maybe the idea for Vinicius (if he's still reading) to pursue is 
that it should be something that can be used as the basis for a URL 
shortening "service" that is distributed and can NOT go away (think 
DNS). That is what some people don't like about the URL shorteners, so 
maybe that's an itch that he might want to scratch.

I've no idea if other such projects already exist, it just occurred to 
me when responding.

E.

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WP-A: A New URL Shortener Vinicius Mesel <me@vmesel.com> - 2016-03-15 16:56 -0300
  Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-15 23:53 +0100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-15 23:11 +0000
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 10:16 +1100
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 00:38 +0100
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 10:55 +1100
          Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 01:36 +0100
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2016-03-15 22:34 -0400
          Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 03:46 +0100
            Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2016-03-15 23:34 -0400
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-16 17:51 +1100
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-16 17:27 +1300
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 16:43 +1100
          Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-17 19:27 +0100
            Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:40 -0700
              Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-17 22:15 +0100
                Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:49 -0700
                Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-19 14:03 +0100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 16:19 -0700
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 01:22 +0100
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 20:40 -0700
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-15 23:40 +0000
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 10:48 +1100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-16 00:31 +0000
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 11:34 +1100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 23:08 +1100
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2016-03-17 12:47 +0000

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