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Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener

From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener
Date 2016-03-17 23:08 +1100
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Vinicius <me@vmesel.com> wrote:
> Sorry for my bad English guys.

Your English is fine. Don't stress about it. :)

>> Em 15 de mar de 2016, às 9:34 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I often like to make a small
>>>> change when I reimplement, though - something that I thought was
>>>> ill-designed in the original,
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, so maybe the idea for Vinicius (if he's still reading) to pursue is that
>>> it should be something that can be used as the basis for a URL shortening
>>> "service" that is distributed and can NOT go away (think DNS). That is what
>>> some people don't like about the URL shorteners, so maybe that's an itch
>>> that he might want to scratch.
>
> So I really don't see what you were trying to say with this paragraph, the part of "that is distributed and can NOT go away". You think that the project could be distributed with a range of people and get them all syncronized?
>

The problems with URL shorteners are:

1) They are centralized, and thus vulnerable to outages

2) They might be taken down completely, particularly if they're losing
money for someone

So you would need to come up with a system that's distributed (such
that one computer's inaccessibility doesn't bring everything down) and
permanent (keep on circulating that information!). It could be a
rather fun problem to tackle.

ChrisA

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WP-A: A New URL Shortener Vinicius Mesel <me@vmesel.com> - 2016-03-15 16:56 -0300
  Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-15 23:53 +0100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-15 23:11 +0000
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 10:16 +1100
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 00:38 +0100
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 10:55 +1100
          Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 01:36 +0100
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2016-03-15 22:34 -0400
          Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 03:46 +0100
            Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2016-03-15 23:34 -0400
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-16 17:51 +1100
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-16 17:27 +1300
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 16:43 +1100
          Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-17 19:27 +0100
            Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:40 -0700
              Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-17 22:15 +0100
                Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 21:49 -0700
                Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-19 14:03 +0100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 16:19 -0700
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-16 01:22 +0100
        Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 20:40 -0700
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-15 23:40 +0000
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 10:48 +1100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-16 00:31 +0000
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 11:34 +1100
    Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 23:08 +1100
      Re: WP-A: A New URL Shortener Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2016-03-17 12:47 +0000

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