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Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still"
Date 2025-06-04 08:55 +0200
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Am Dienstag000003, 03.06.2025 um 20:41 schrieb William Hyde:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Dienstag000003, 03.06.2025 um 00:49 schrieb William Hyde:
>> ...
>>>>> The English name you after one group mentioned by the Romans, the 
>>>>> French after another, but the actual descendants of the Romans at 
>>>>> least make a stab at the right name.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Irish use the same group as the English, but the Welsh follow 
>>>>> the French model, as do the Spanish.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have the same situation as Greece, which foreigners have been 
>>>>> misnaming since 500 BC.  And of course there are more such examples.
>>>>>
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > But the British
>>>>>
>>>>> Not all the British, see above.
>>>>>
>>>>>   used 'German' instead of 'Dutch' because 'Dutch' was
>>>>>  > already in use for the language of the Netherlands.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I could believe they were  that rational, but I doubt it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can find no Anglo-Saxon word for "Germany".  They had words for 
>>>>> various tribes, for the Franks and the Burgundians, and "Denmark" 
>>>>> was a word, but no word for the lands where German speaking people 
>>>>> lived. Perhaps they just called it "the old country".
>>>>
>>>> There was no country at that time, where all German speakers lived.
>>>>
>>>> German was actually a language, which was spoken in many areas of 
>>>> Europe and possibly beyond.
>>>>
>>>> Modern Germany was founded in 1871 and was created by fusing 
>>>> together about 1000 different mainly tiny entities.
>>>>
>>>> Prior to that year there was no Germany and certainly also not at 
>>>> the times of the Anglo-Saxons.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>  > So, the Anglo-Saxons had no need to name a country, which didn't 
>>> exist.
>>>  >
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually the "Kingdom of Germany" dates from the breakup of 
>>> Charlemagne's empire, formed in the Treaty of Verdun in 843.  It was 
>>> later absorbed into the Holy Roman Empire, which was later renamed 
>>> (circa 1500) "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation". Which I 
>>> presume is why the 1871 state was the second empire.
>>
>>
>> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regnum_Teutonicum
>>
>> The 'Regnum Teutonicum' was obviously named after the Teutons.
>>
>> This was a people who lived in the norther region of Denmark and do 
>> not belong to the set of people, which build the population of present 
>> day Germany.
>>
>> Actually all the tribes, which were called 'Germanes' by the Romans, 
>> stem from the regions, which belonged to Denmark.
>>
>>
>>> Naturally, the word used for "German" in the above varies from place 
>>> to place - wikipedia is helpful here, giving:
>>>
>>> "The Kingdom of Germany or German Kingdom (Latin: regnum Teutonicorum 
>>> 'kingdom of the Germans', regnum Teutonicum 'German kingdom',[1] 
>>> regnum Alamanie "kingdom of Germany",[2] German: Deutsches Königreich)"
>>>
>>> so the Anglo-Saxons really did need a name, and they went with 
>>> Caesar's version.
>>
>> 'Angeln' is the name of a region in the north of Schleswig Holstein, 
>> which was a part of Denmark, too. That was the region, were the Anglo- 
>> Saxons came from.
>>
>> The German state 'Sachsen' is in no way related to Saxons, because 
>> 'Sax' was the name of an ancient weapon (kind of ax).
>>
>> These Anglo-Saxons  settled also in 'Niedersachsen', but most likely 
>> didn't speak German or called themselves 'Germanes'.
>>
>> So, why should they call their kingdom 'Germany'?
> 
> 
> My point is that circa 850 the Anglo-Saxons in England needed a name for 
> this new kingdom.  Ango-Saxon missionaries, active in Germany at the 
> time, would have been well aware that the word "German" was not in use 
> there.  But as Latin speakers they probably went with the Latin example, 
> and used "Germania".  Which was easy to remember because every Latin 
> speaker had read Caesar's memoirs.
> 
> Irish missionaries were also prominent in Germany (in fact Rome 
> commanded Anglo-Saxon missionaries to go to Germany specifically to 
> counter the Irish, who were regarded as heretical - how times change), 
> and it seems that they, too, went with the Latin example.


Which was actually correct, because tribes named 'Germanes' were 
actually Scandinavians.

Modern Germany is not part of scandinavia, but south and occupies a part 
of Central Europe.

So, 'Germanic' is an atribute belonging to certain tribes, who settled 
in southern Scandinavia and northern Germany.

Those scandinavians were predominately blond, while Germans were not.

The confusion stems from the use of the Roman term 'Germanes', which was 
used indicriminately for all northern people by the Romans.

Better would be to concentrate on ethnicity, culture and languages.

The language in Germany is called 'Deutsch' and the language is quite 
different to what Danes speak.

So: 'Mare Germanicum' (for 'North Sea') means actually 'Danish Sea' and 
not 'German Sea'.

Also Wikings and (Anglo-) Saxons were not really German tribes, because 
this country is named after the language 'Deutsch' and the Wikinigs 
spoke most likely Danish.

> It is notable that the Welsh, an independent people, disagreed.

There are certainly many issues like this. But it would be certainly 
misleading to discuss thoses issues here, too.
...


TH

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                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:11 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:15 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:42 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:02 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 14:43 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-27 10:22 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:37 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 13:53 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-30 22:56 -0500
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:49 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:58 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:09 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 14:09 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 15:08 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 12:39 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 17:37 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:36 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 10:08 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-15 17:52 +0000
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:44 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:17 -0600
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 11:25 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 16:32 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 17:59 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:46 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:04 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:00 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-18 06:56 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:44 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 23:02 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 20:05 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:40 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-15 18:44 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 09:46 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 16:58 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-17 00:58 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:23 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:06 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 15:41 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-18 13:58 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 06:12 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-19 07:12 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 12:28 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 16:40 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 14:47 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 14:53 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:07 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 09:18 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:36 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 09:58 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:23 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:26 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:13 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:49 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:38 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:01 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:02 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 13:09 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-18 15:15 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Craig <x@y.com> - 2025-06-18 18:25 +0000
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 20:54 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 19:57 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:13 -0700
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-13 18:49 -0400
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 09:53 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-15 14:45 +0300
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:27 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-17 16:25 +0300
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:28 +0200
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Oleg Smirnov" <os333@netc.eu> - 2025-06-19 12:55 +0300
                Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-01 23:10 -0600
              Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-31 23:13 -0600
  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-18 23:47 -0500
  Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:40 -0700
    Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 15:45 -0700

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