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Re: The build ..x870e ProArt-Creator, Scene-1, take N

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On 3/21/25 14:39, bad sector wrote:
> On 3/21/25 13:52, Paul wrote:
>> On Fri, 3/21/2025 12:49 PM, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 3/4/25 13:37, Paul wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3/4/2025 7:41 AM, bad sector wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Single-sourcing works well in urban centers only. Looks like this 
>>>>> build will ring the 6 month gongs no problem. Asus have 'found' a 
>>>>> new x870e ProArt for me which they say they will FULLY test before 
>>>>> shipping (I hope it won't be just a refurb with another name).
>>>>>
>>>>> Once received I will start all over step-by-step
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 ... lay the freakin' board out on the RealDesktop
>>>>
>>>> You have the determination to see a build through.
>>>>
>>>> This is what the pc-homebuilt group is for :-)
>>>>
>>>>      Paul
>>>
>>> No one's gonna believe this...
>>>
>>> Three months to the day I ordered this ASUS piece of shit on Dec-22 
>>> not even suspecting what lay in store. Due to the death of my younger 
>>> son I did not declare the $5 chinese printed circuit joke a hopeless 
>>> DOA until it was too late to to just ask for a refund so RMA became 
>>> the only remaining option. Back it went AT MY EXPENSE, and it 
>>> lingered there for much of this time. At first they outright LIED to 
>>> me saying that the board was posting OK but said that they would send 
>>> me a new one anyway. I don't know if it's a new one I got or the same 
>>> one, haven't checked the numbers yet but it sure is not a new-new box 
>>> and all. At one time they claimed they could not find a another one. 
>>> Finally several weeks ago it shipped ...but to the WRONG ADDRESS on 
>>> the north shore of the St-Lawrence valley which for someone living on 
>>> Chaleurs Bay is on another planet. Both Asus and Fedex wanted me to 
>>> give my correct address to which my initial response was 'you give me 
>>> what you have and I'll
>>> correct it if need be'. Asus would not do so, claiming security 
>>> constraints. Cute, them telling ME what they have as MY address is a 
>>> security issue? Fedex never came back at all.
>>>
>>> So this morning I receive the board, set it up for intial ring-out, 
>>> everything goes just fine (HUGE sigh of relief!) until it's time for 
>>> the monitor to say "press 'Del' ... to look at BIOS. The keyboard is 
>>> dead. Try another keyboard, AND a third, all the same.
>>>
>>> - Durgod-320
>>> - Kensington cheapo
>>> - Steelseries gamer
>>>
>>> CMOS cleared, no cigar; swing USB ports, no cigar. These monkeys have 
>>> got their fingers up their assholes all the way to the armpit for 
>>> crissake! Sent them an email, starting to be short-fused.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This sort of thing happens on Dells.
>>
>> You couldn't get into the Dell BIOS using a Microsoft Comfort keyboard
>> (the one with the large surface and weird shape).
>>
>> I haven't had any trouble here with my moth eaten collection
>> of keyboards, but you have to knock on wood when you say that.
>>
>> On an Asus, the <DEL> key is for entering the BIOS, and F8
>> is for pop-up boot.
>>
>> I had a conversation with someone yesterday at a store, and
>> I suggested it was possible XHCI ports (which is all of them
>> on a modern motherboard -- the USB2 ports are just USB3 ports
>> with the five wire high speed interface disconnected), may not work
>> with some keyboards. The tech guy there, didn't think that was
>> the case. It's really a "driver" type issue, and one would hope,
>> tested in the lab before shipping.
>>
>> At one time, there was a "lab interface" USB on the PCH
>> which was a "real" USB2. But they may have stopped adding
>> that to the PCH/Southbridge by now. On the assumption that
>> everything works with XHCI.
>>
>>      Paul
> 
> With a usb odd drive with 2 usb pigtails and a bootable installation DVD 
> in it (to install a fresh system) I got a sligtly more elaborate 
> annunciation on the monitor, this one spoke of only the F1 key to get to 
> BIOS.
> 
> Smelling progress and on a hunch I disconnected the ODD that was passing 
> for two keyboards and plugged in a bootable SATA drive (legacy BIOS from 
> another machine) to the Sata-1 port. The Durgod keyboard still dead I 
> rotated it out for the cheap Kensington and NOW I got into a BIOS display!
> 
> This kind of EFI BIOS is new to me so I'll have to read and figure out 
> how to boot the board from an insall DVD in a usb ODD drive.


I got into BIOS but only on a reboot did the usb ODD show up as a 
bootable device. Good enough for starters said I, so I installed 
Tumbleweed but on reboot back to sqaure one: no boot, no keyboard, no 
BIOS. The screen logo says 'AUSUS in search of incredible', seconded, 
for incredible stupidity.

After the install I pulled the installation DVD expecting (as I had done 
on HUNDREDS of previous Tumbleweed installs) to boot from the SATA drive 
just installed to including grub2 to boot it. Regardless of BIOS when 
there is ONLY ONE bootable device plugged in, ANYWHERE, shouldn't THAT 
device just boot? My grandmother could figure that much out and she died 
80 years before computers. And there's still the issue of keyboard 
recognition, a USB keyboard mind you, in an age when ALL keyboards ARE usb!

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