Re: Forth for Kids

From	lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null>
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Subject	Re: Forth for Kids
Date	2013-05-15 03:43 +0000
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In <3fafc15e-e400-4168-ba46-b20b0042143d@googlegroups.com> hughaguilar96@yahoo.com writes:

>I'm not entirely opposed to games. I often spend hours per day playing Badu=
>k on KGS. That's different though, because that is supposedly stimulating m=
>y mind.

>I am very much opposed to violent video games however. I think these are a =
>major factor in these mass shootings that we have had recently. I would be =
>okay with banning them. They are essentially pornography, except for violen=
>ce rather than sex --- in either case, people get a fantasy in their mind t=
>hat is a gross deviation from reality --- this stimulates peoples minds too=
>, but not in a good way.

I'm not totally disagreeing with this.  But not all games are like you
describe.  (Even ignoring Go.)  It's a relatively recent trend that
nearly every game on sale in US and UK computer stores is like this.
Having seen the stunning diversity of games covering almost every
possible genre in Japan--where even middle-aged salarymen in suits are
found playing games in arcade parlors after work--I'm completely
convinced that games can be a genuine art form (even if so much of what
is out there is trash; but games are hardly exceptional in this regard).
In the US, there were many innovative computer games that were neither
pornographic nor particularly violent in the 1980s and early/mid 1990s
that would probably impress people today if they made allowances for the
primitive hardware they were forced to make the best of.  Honestly, I
think it says a lot more about society than it does about games as an
art vehicle that it is the disposable garbage that sells the most.

(And that's all from me on this topic.)

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Re: Forth for Kids hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-14 00:45 -0700
  Re: Forth for Kids Doug Hoffman <glidedog@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 06:30 -0400
  Re: Forth for Kids "Paul E. Bennett" <Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk> - 2013-05-14 19:25 +0100
    Re: Forth for Kids visualforth@rocketmail.com - 2013-05-14 15:32 -0700
  Re: Forth for Kids lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2013-05-14 18:29 +0000
    Re: Forth for Kids Pablo Hugo Reda <pabloreda@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 13:42 -0700
    Re: Forth for Kids hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-05-14 18:37 -0700
      Re: Forth for Kids lynx <rinkasu@kaze.void.null> - 2013-05-15 03:43 +0000

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