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Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions)

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions)
Date 2023-06-01 19:54 -0500
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On 6/1/2023 6:51 PM, Volney wrote:
> On 6/1/2023 7:47 PM, Jane wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 May 2023 15:27:32 -0500, whodat wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Given the MPD there is no certainty that "Jane" herself did not earlier
>>> present as "Uncle John." The similarity in imbecility tends to support
>>> such a thesis. I hasten to add that what I am saying here is merely a
>>> possibility that has some legs.
>>
>> You know, the difference between your contributions here and mine is that
>> you can only continually claim that I am wrong without having any reason
>> to say so whereas I do not bother to brag about being continually right
>> because I have plenty of reason to know that I am. In other words,
>> nothing you say has any educational value whatsoever whereas everything I
>> say has potential to literally change the world.
> 
> The first rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is: You don't realize you're a 
> member of the Dunning-Kruger Club.

While I've used various tactics in arguing with others in the past I've
done my best to rely on facts where "Jane" is concerned. I feel badly
about how this is going, but have been careful not to drive it. Jane's
difficulties here are of her own making. The reason I didn't deal with
MPD as an issue earlier, especially decades ago, is because although
she reported it to me then there was no element of MPD in our
interactions in the past. Unfortunately that's no longer true.

Back around 1970 when my first wife died unexpectedly I became engrossed
for a while with the classic three houses and three utilities problem
and kept at seeking a solution for weeks despite being told there is no
solution, so I know how difficult it can be to give up on something
when deep in your bones it feels like there is a solution that everyone
else has missed. But there comes a time when realization creates an
opportunity to overcome that blindness and we need to seize the
opportunity and progress.

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Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-05-21 17:57 -0500
  Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-05-21 21:23 -0700
  Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-23 02:51 +0000
    Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Tom Roberts <tjoberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2023-05-23 11:35 -0500
      Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-05-23 10:36 -0700
      Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-24 03:08 +0000
        Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-05-26 15:52 -0700
          Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-27 00:27 +0000
            Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-05-26 18:29 -0700
              Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-26 21:15 -0500
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-28 00:21 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-27 20:34 -0500
              Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-28 00:18 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-05-27 18:05 -0700
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-28 12:09 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-28 11:10 -0500
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions "Jeremy Parker." <JP@not.com> - 2023-05-29 00:48 +0000
                Misinterpretation runs in Uncle Jane's family (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-28 21:10 -0500
                Re: Misinterpretation runs in Uncle Jane's family (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-30 05:15 +0000
                Re: Misinterpretation runs in Uncle Jane's family (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-30 13:14 -0500
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-05-28 10:25 -0700
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-29 05:35 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 00:37 -0700
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-30 05:35 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Trevor Lange <trevorlange97@gmail.com> - 2023-05-29 23:20 -0700
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-31 09:24 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 13:53 -0400
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Mario Rompuy <yrmu@mpoapryo.pp> - 2023-06-01 11:18 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Demetrius Krantz <admk@asukseuu.ss> - 2023-06-01 20:26 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-06-02 00:24 +0000
                Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Russell Akker <rekl@sssaarlk.ks> - 2023-06-03 07:48 +0000
                Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-29 12:09 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-30 05:45 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 08:07 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-05-30 08:30 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-31 09:31 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-31 06:44 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 07:04 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-31 12:48 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-31 20:55 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 14:04 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-05-31 14:02 -0400
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Baudilio Marqueringh <qgiu@oimrggbo.eh> - 2023-05-31 20:21 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-31 15:27 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-06-01 23:47 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-01 19:51 -0400
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-01 19:54 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-06-02 01:27 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-01 21:12 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-06-02 04:44 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-02 00:53 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) AG <AsG@FO.com> - 2023-06-02 23:20 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Androcles' Ghost <AsG@FO.com> - 2023-06-02 23:36 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-02 18:47 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-02 18:45 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-03 01:00 -0400
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-02 22:44 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-03 06:54 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Androcles' Ghost <AsG@FO.com> - 2023-06-03 23:18 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-03 19:59 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Androcles' Ghost <AsG@FO.com> - 2023-06-05 04:31 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-06-05 20:06 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-05 21:30 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Reed Maessen <aeaa@nesasrsn.rd> - 2023-06-05 19:36 +0000
                Godwin Alert whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-05 15:31 -0500
                Re: Godwin Alert Feliciano Klerkse <lcso@raaeklen.kk> - 2023-06-05 20:36 +0000
                Re: Godwin Alert Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-13 16:10 -0400
                Re: Godwin Alert Waldo Aart <wtld@aralowaa.dt> - 2023-06-13 23:34 +0000
                Re: Godwin Alert Herman Rijnder <reir@ereremem.nn> - 2023-06-13 23:57 +0000
                Re: Godwin Alert "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-06-13 17:39 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-06-01 23:03 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-06-01 19:37 -0500
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-05-31 20:59 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-05-31 14:42 -0700
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) Moody Schneijders <mmmc@dshheeds.sh> - 2023-06-03 11:02 +0000
                Re: Uncle Jane and MPD (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-05-30 13:21 -0500
    Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions Ed Romijnders <dddr@jrsnrmej.md> - 2023-05-23 18:34 +0000

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