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Misinterpretation runs in Uncle Jane's family (was Re: The Light Clock Thought Experiment - Questions)

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On 5/28/2023 7:48 PM, Jeremy Parker. wrote:
> On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:10:35 -0500, whodat wrote:
> 
>> Apologies in advance for top posting.
>>
>> The following presents Jane's "made up reality" that is fiction.
>>
>> Light cannot be "accelerated" once a beam is formed. The only changes to
>> its velocity are available by passing through a different medium. For
>> example light travels more slowly through water than air. Jane is
>> spewing nonsense and will very personally attack anyone who disagrees
>> with her. The story she tells below is not supported by experiment; it
>> is only supported by her creative juices hell bent making others believe
>> on the fictions she spouts.
> 
> I anticipated such a pathetic and abusive reply. Re-read my note about
> 'superior intelligence', below.



So like your Uncle Jane you don't understand we have never been able to 
accelerate light in an already formed beam. Changing direction of motion
is also an "acceleration" but bear in mind that once a light beam
impacts anything the light beam ceases to exist. In the case of a mirror
a new light beam is formed. Get a grip already. Jane's and your "thesis"
has no validity because as Uncle Al used to say, your ideas are DOA
(dead on arrival.)

Google serves up dictionaries in many languages including AmerEnglish.

I urge you to kiss your Uncle Jane farewell and go learn from any
culture that is not based in stick ball. You misuse, apparently from not
understanding, so many words. If you're going to select a mentor,
please select one who will serve your progress instead of deterring
any possible advance. Unless, of course, you would prefer to become
one of the best cranks known to mankind.




>>>> Not at all.  There are two paths, of different but constant lengths.
>>>> The wavecrest are emitted once per second, and they pass through a
>>>> beam splitter and follow two paths of different (but constant) lengths
>>>> at equal speeds, and obviously the wavecrests arrive at the common
>>>> receiver at once per second on both paths, because neither path length
>>>> is changing, but they will arrive out of phase by a fixed amount. This
>>>> is self-evident to any sentient being.  Do you honestly not understand
>>>> this?
>>>
>>> It is only 'self evident' to a blind Einstein worshipper.
>>>
>>> Let me explain...but you will need superior intelligence to understand
>>> the following.
>>> When the mirrors are at rest, both paths contain the same number of
>>> waves, all moving at c.  The travel times are the same.  During an
>>> acceleration, the travel times are not the same and waves literally
>>> move from one path to the other. When the acceleration ceases, one path
>>> ends up with more waves than the other but the travel times are again
>>> identical.  That happens because the path that contains the greater
>>> number of waves moves at c+v whereas the other one moves at c-v. If you
>>> work it out, you will find that the two factors exactly compensate and
>>> the travel times are always the same for any constant angular velocity.
>>> The fringe pattern is again stationary  but displaced.
>>> The wave arrival rate is not and does not have to be 1 per second.It is
>>> (c+v)/c and (c-v)/c respectively...so much for your idea of 'self
>>> evidence'.  Michelson made the mistake of using the wave departure
>>> frequency in his analysis rather than the two different 'arrival'
>>> frequencies. He claimed to have refuted the ballistic theory when he
>>> did not even know what it meant.
>>> The above also applies to a Sagnac interferometer.
>>>
>>>>>> There is no viable classical] ballistic theory...
> 

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