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Re: What happened with Einstein's 1905 manuscripts, notes and else?

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Am 31.05.2022 um 06:21 schrieb Richard Hertz:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 12:41:17 AM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> What do you mean by manuscripts? "Theory of Special Relativity"
>> handwritten by Einsten was sold at an aution for 1.2mil
>
> I think I was crystal clear.
> I'm referring to ANY handwritten document that PRECEDED the June 1905 publication at the ADP journal:
>
> - Scratch pads from 1905 and before.
> - Single pages with calculations, derivations, wrong parts that were modified, etc.
> - Any kind of note, even written ON pages of papers treating Maxwell (his only reference in the fucking paper).

No, Einstein mentioned Heinrich Hertz and used (apparently) his book 
about 'Über die Ausbreitung der elektrischen Kraft' (about the 
distribution of the electric force).

The 14th chapter had the title' equations about the electrodynamics of 
moving bodies'.

So Einstein didn't refer to Maxwell himself, but to the adaptation of 
Maxwell's theory by Heinrich Hertz.

Unfortunately that book is only available in German (as far as I know).

Einstein didn't provide any proper reference to used material, but 
mentioned the name 'Hertz'.

Also used, but not quoted, was (apparently) a book from Henri Poincaré 
'Sur la dynamic de la electron' (something like that)

Also used was some material from Hendrik Lorentz (which I have not yet 
identified).


> - ANYTHING that could show how hard the retarded worked in previous years around the topic (as he said: several years of previous work).
>
> You are CONFUSED (but I doubt, because you are a wicky person) with his 1909 RE-WRITING (for the fucking press) of
> a stupid page where, FINALLY, the fucking formula E=mc2 was handwritten (because it was becoming more and more popular).
>

It is in my oppinion impossible, that Einstein could have written all of 
the 1904/5 papers himself.

One reason:
he worked fulltime (six days a weak at ten hours each) in a patent 
office, while having a young family at home.

That would be hard to survive in the first place, but would certainly 
restric the amount of time, which Einstein could use to think about 
relativity, Brownian motion, Quantum physics and/or the photoelectric 
effect.

Also the number of pages to write was huge, if you think about the 
available tools for writing in that era. Mainly ink and feathers were 
used, because ball pens were invented half a century later.

Books and paper were expensive in those days and the copy machine, let 
alone the internet, needed many additional decades for their advent.

But besides of four Earth shattering scientific papers Einstein wrote 
also a number of reviews for 'Annalen der Physik' (I guess that were 
twenty).

So, in effect he could hardly eat something, because his scedule was 
simply overflowing.


TH

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