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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: What happened with Einstein's 1905 manuscripts, notes and else? |
| Date | 2022-06-29 08:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ji2bc5Frsu1U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am 03.06.2022 um 19:16 schrieb whodat:
> On 6/3/2022 12:21 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 12:14:46 AM UTC-3, whodat wrote:
>>> On 6/2/2022 5:56 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 7:31:30 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>> Richard Hertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides efforts of StarMaker to derail this thread with the Jew
>>>>>> thing,
>>>>> You were the one who said: "Are you implying that I'm related to
>>>>> any of
>>>>> the 12 tribes?"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was simply putting a light for others on what you meant by...the 12
>>>>> tribes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and I'm not finished...
>>>>> --
>>>>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>>>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the
>>>>> unsayable,
>>>>> and challenge
>>>>> the unchallengeable.
>>>>
>>>> Which lost tribe invited him to Japan and paid him more than
>>>> 100,000$ for the inconvenience?
>>>>
>>>> Think thoroughly before you answer any stupid reason.
>>>>
>>>> https://artsandculture.google.com/story/einstein-s-trip-to-the-far-east-and-palestine-einstein-archive/AAWRQlTfnA8A8A?hl=en
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WWII was in the making, in slow motion.
>>> That depends entirely on your frame of reference.
>>
>> My frame of reference is very simple, but I'm not familiar with the
>> overall geopolitical objectives post-WWI, for allies and germans.
>>
>> I know these simple facts:
>>
>> 1. Germans considered that the political elite betrayed them by
>> surrendering, even when they believe they were winning.
>> 2. The allies imposed severe conditions to pay compensations, which
>> brought poverty, famine and hyperinflation in the next years.
>> In particular, the sanctions started to be felt severely by the
>> time Einstein fled from Germany for six months, in a luxury tour.
>> Meanwhile, his colleagues suffered in health, food and money.
>> Einstein (THE ONLY ONE) was cashing like crazy, for which the
>> despise against him only increased.
>> 3. While EVERY SCIENTIST at Germany was forbidden to have contact
>> with colleagues from US, France, UK, Belgium, etc., Einstein was
>> acclaimed as the greatest mind that ever lived, receiving a huge
>> amount of invitations to visit other countries, starting with England
>> by 1920, US by 1921, etc.
>> 4. It would take a new generation of physicists to break such
>> "prison", by the hand of Bohr and the QM guys, around 1924. Meanwhile,
>> Einstein remained IN SILENCE, enjoying his premature retirement
>> and cashing his huge salary (under contract) from Berlin University.
>> 5. The desire of revenge was being incubated in those early years of
>> 1920 decade, in particular against the german elite (many jews),
>> which brought a strong sense of nationalism. This widespread
>> feeling was "captured" by people like Hitler, who was a WWI veteran
>> that wanted to be a painter (believe or not). His November 1923
>> Putscht, further judgement and prison, and the writing of his famous
>> book were the trigger of the development of his national
>> socialism, that opposed to the widespread communism (not against jews,
>> but
>> against communists, as Hitler himself told to Max Planck).
>> 6. In the years to come, for the rest of that infamous decade of 1920,
>> the seed of change and revolution developed. It only was needed
>> that Germany could access to vast amount of money, which TPTB was
>> very pleased to send to his puppet (Hitler), once he gained the
>> power in 1933.
>> 7. Historians are forbidden to write about which forces from USA and
>> UK installed Hitler in power, and financed the monumental
>> re-industrialization of Germany between 1933 and 1939. Hundred of
>> billion of dollars were poured on the hands of Hitler, and eyes
>> looked TO OTHER SIDE when he rearmed Germany (violating Verdun
>> Act). One Wolkswagen + 1 tank/airplane.
>> 8. Hitler was used to redirect german hate towards communist USSR, not
>> the West.
>> The "kabuki theater" in the war against West was shown in full
>> colors when Hitler spared the life of 400,000 britons and french at
>> Dunkirk. He could have annihilated the concentration on the
>> beach of Dunkirk.
>> Instead, he started his Barbarrosa Operation against USSR, which
>> didn't end as it was planned by the West cabal.
>>
>> Einstein, with the worldwide fame provided by the anglosaxon TPTB, was
>> UNTOUCHABLE.
>
>
>
> Einstein became a Swiss citizen in 1901 and was exempt from German laws
> so long as he stayed out of Germany. Therein was the next problem, he
> foresaw that Germany might overrun all those sections of Europe that
> were of interest to him, so he first thought to emigrate to England but
> then after a visit to the United States emigrated here.
>
> You think the buildup to WW2 was slow in Europe, it was not. There was a
> lot to do for Hitler to acquire dictatorial power and that was a
> constant fast moving initiative highly visible to anyone who was paying
> attention.
>
> You're looking at events nearly a century old lacking original primary
> news sources with a lot of modern bias superimposed. Good luck with
> that.
>
>
>
>> He knew it, he enjoyed his iconic fame (like Rolling Stones or Elvis),
>> and fled his native country (was again a German citizen),
>
>
> <<https://best-citizenships.com/2020/08/08/how-many-citizenships-albert-einstein-had/>
"Albert Einstein Citizenships
Kingdom of Württemberg German Empire (1879–1896)
Stateless (1896–1901)
Switzerland (1901–1955)
Austria during the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1911–1912)
Kingdom of Prussia during the German Empire (1914–1918)
Free State of Prussia (Germany, 1918–1933)
United States (1940–1955)
"
As far as I know, this was not allowed in Germany.
The Geramn rules for citizenship after WWI were, that you may only have
one citizenship and this belongs to the nation called 'Deutsches Reich'
(later 'Bundesrepublik Deutschland') and not to its subdivisions called
'Bundesstaaten' or the former kingdoms, from which the Reich was composed.
see here:
https://uk.diplo.de/uk-en/02/citizenship/acquiring-german-citizenship/2463622
More likely is a Swiss citizenship by birth and a faked identity in his
early years in Germany.
The reason to think so, are:
it was fantastically unlikely, that young Einstein wanted to stay alone
in Munich, went from there to Italy and denounced his German citizenship.
He spoke most likely all the main languages of Switzerland, but very
poor English. Also his German was quite poor.
To aquirre Swiss citizenship was very hard in those days and you could
not become a Swiss citizen just by asking.
It was very unlikely, that a teenager would like to split from his
family in Italy, to go to school in Switzerland, if he had never been
there before.
Much more convincing than his offcial CV is the assumption, that his CV
was faked and he was in fact Swiss from birth.
This would also fit to his extremely anti-German attitudes, what would
not make much sense, if he was in fact German.
But if his vita was a fake, we would need skilled fakes for this task, too.
Such agencies exist, of course, and are usually called 'agencies' (its
members 'agents').
Now we need to search for contacts to agencies of some sort in
Einstein's life and will find, that he had actually a diplomatic
passport, too.
This is a little strange for a physicist, to say the least.
TH
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