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Re: Annotated version of SRT

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Annotated version of SRT
Date	2022-04-24 07:49 +0200
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Am 23.04.2022 um 09:34 schrieb Michael Moroney:
> On 4/23/2022 1:55 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 22.04.2022 um 15:39 schrieb Python:
>>> Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> [snip bullshit]
>>>> The coordinate x' was defined in the text by using the Gallileo
>>>> transform x' = x- v*t
>>>
>>> No. It's is not a transformation equation, idiot. It is a equation
>>> of motion.
>>>
>>>> [snip more bullshit]
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Before you crank out insults, you should at least ask google for the
>> meaning of 'Gallileo transformation'.
>>
>> The very first result would be this:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galilean_transformation
>>
>> Quote:
>>
>> " x' = x- v*t "
>>
> Just because the Galilean transformation is x' = x-vt doesn't mean every
> instance of "x'=x-vt" is the Galilean Transform.
> This is an example of the logical fallacy: If A then B implies If B then
> A.  (If NOT B then NOT A is true, however)

You are absolute right, that this was not meant as Galilean 
transformation, even if the equation of that transform was used.

In fact Einstein made an error:

he used 'x' in  his equation "x' = x- v*t"

Instead of that, actually:
x' = xsi - v*t
was  meant with xsi=0.

The setting was: a light beam was sent from the zero spot of k to the 
point x'. There was a mirror placed, which reflected the beam back to 
the source.

Now the zero spot of k has the xsi-coordinate xsi=0.

This point moves along the X-axis of K with velocity v. Now we have:
x' = xsi - v*t (correcting Einstein's obvious error from above).

Therefore the point x' must be the zero spot of K, which has the 
x-coordinate x'=0.

This is all nice and possible, but would invalidate most of the 
subsequent equations for a number of reasons.

For instance del x' in the denominator would not make much sense, if x'=0.

TH

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Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-21 08:53 +0200
  Re: Annotated version of SRT Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2022-04-21 13:13 +0000
    Re: Annotated version of SRT Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 07:32 -0700
    Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 13:51 -0700
    Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-21 23:24 +0200
      Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 21:10 -0700
      Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-22 08:38 +0200
        Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-22 11:00 +0200
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-23 08:07 +0200
        Re: Annotated version of SRT RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2022-04-23 14:59 -0700
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-24 07:36 +0200
          Re: Annotated version of SRT nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-04-24 10:41 +0200
            Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 01:59 -0700
            Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-26 09:02 +0200
  Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-21 13:48 -0700
    Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-22 09:00 +0200
      Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 01:41 -0700
        Re: Annotated version of SRT Dong Vassilikos <saox@cowrpsho.rb> - 2022-04-24 12:23 +0000
      Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-22 15:39 +0200
        Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-22 07:11 -0700
        Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-23 07:55 +0200
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-23 03:34 -0400
            Re: Annotated version of SRT Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-04-23 11:52 +0200
              Re: Annotated version of SRT Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-04-23 05:49 -0700
              Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-24 08:07 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 01:52 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-25 09:52 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 12:22 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-26 07:02 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-25 23:52 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-26 22:24 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-26 17:35 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-27 07:59 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-28 07:14 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-28 01:45 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Rady Konoe <akde@oakoradn.en> - 2022-04-28 09:03 +0000
            Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-24 07:49 +0200
              Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 01:23 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-24 11:08 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 05:14 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2022-04-24 12:46 -0700
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Dong Vassilikos <saox@cowrpsho.rb> - 2022-04-24 21:09 +0000
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-25 10:23 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-24 12:56 -0400
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-25 10:09 +0200
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-04-25 11:51 -0400
                Re: Annotated version of SRT Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-04-26 07:22 +0200
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Cody Sakellariou <yall@ckcldcdd.ar> - 2022-04-23 07:59 +0000
          Re: Annotated version of SRT Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-04-23 12:56 +0000
    Re: Annotated version of SRT Dong Vassilikos <saox@cowrpsho.rb> - 2022-04-24 21:21 +0000

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