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Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation
Date 2022-03-13 16:51 +1100
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On 13-Mar-22 11:10 am, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:07:49 PM UTC-3, Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Your post fits into the "not even wrong" category. Heads up - that's not a good thing.
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> 
> The amount of energy delivered to the surface of the earth is 1370 W/m^2 at the latitude where the sun is directly overhead.
> 
> WRONG VALUE. A COMMON MISTAKE IN MANY SITES.
> 
> So let's take a watermelon, which has a cross-sectional area of about
> 0.20 m^2, and we'll drop it from the third story (10 meters up) of a
> city parking garage. The maximal amount of photonic energy it can absorb
> from above is therefore 1370 W/m^2 * 0.2 m^2 = 275 W roughly, certainly
> no more than 300 W.
> 
> WRONG CONCEPT. ENERGY (J) IS NOT POWER (W = J/S).
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Since the average watermelon is about 20 pounds or 9 kilograms,
> we can find the speed this 400 Joules could generate:
> 400 J = (1/2)mv^2 = (1/2)*(9 kg)*v^2
> so
> v = 9.4 m/s if ALL of the photonic energy is absorbed and converted into
> kinetic energy rather than heat or anything else.
> 
> WRONG CONCEPT. WEIGHT (9 kgF) IS TAKEN AS MASS (M = WEIGHT/g).
> 
> 
> But the watermelon is observed to have a speed of 9.8 m/s^2 * 1.4 sec =
> 13.7 m/s, which can be measured with a light strobe, a camera, and a
> meter stick mounted at ground level.
> 
> WRONG CONCEPT. IS TRYING TO LEAD THIS TO THINKING THAT ABSORBED ENERGY CAUSES MASS INCREMENT.
> 
> 
> See, Sylvia? 4 huge mistakes in an exercise that has no support in reality.
> 
> Plus, beating the poor guy all the way, as if he KNEW BETTER.
> 
> Keep supporting him, anyway. I don't care more than what I wrote.
> 
> I stick with my position: He's a cretin and an imbecile simultaneously, and always has been (plus a charlatan pretender).

Until we know what your actual conclusion is, and you never reached one 
that made any sense, it is impossible to say where your mistakes are.

Sylvia.

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Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 22:20 -0800
  Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-03-12 19:44 +1100
    Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 03:48 -0800
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-03-13 10:07 +1100
        Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 16:10 -0800
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-03-13 16:51 +1100
            Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 22:05 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 13:29 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 06:48 -0700
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 13:29 +0000
  Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-12 11:37 +0100
  Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 15:06 +0000
    Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 10:13 -0800
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 19:34 +0000
        Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 11:55 -0800
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 20:13 +0000
            Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 12:48 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 21:06 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 14:52 -0800
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 00:13 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-03-12 20:59 -0500
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 20:35 -0800
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 12:34 +0000
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-12 12:07 -0800
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-12 22:55 +0100
        Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 22:12 +0000
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-12 23:46 +0100
            Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 14:55 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 14:58 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Vaugn Rhea <var@bfrlsr.ni> - 2022-03-12 23:12 +0000
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 00:14 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 20:41 -0800
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 12:35 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 06:29 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 13:33 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 06:49 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 14:01 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-03-13 16:58 +0100
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 20:51 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 20:57 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 14:09 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 10:48 +0000
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 09:39 -0700
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