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Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation
Date 2022-03-13 10:07 +1100
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On 12-Mar-22 10:48 pm, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 5:44:45 AM UTC-3, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 12-Mar-22 5:20 pm, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>> I can't let this gem pass. It's a sample of the power of thought of
>>> The Supreme Thinker and one of the rare posts where he uses his math:
>>>
>>> Can you spot the error(s)?
>>>
>>> *************************************************
>>>
>>> Dec 2, 2014, 5:17:02 PM
>>>
>>> Almost all of the photonic flow down onto the surface of the earth is
>>> due to the sun. The amount of energy delivered to the surface of the
>>> earth is 1370 W/m^2 at the latitude where the sun is directly overhead.
>>> (At different latitutes, it's less.)
>>>
>>> So let's take a watermelon, which has a cross-sectional area of about
>>> 0.20 m^2, and we'll drop it from the third story (10 meters up) of a
>>> city parking garage. The maximal amount of photonic energy it can absorb
>>> from above is therefore 1370 W/m^2 * 0.2 m^2 = 275 W roughly, certainly
>>> no more than 300 W.
>>>
>>> This is of course presuming that none of the
>>> photonic energy is reflected and that all of it is absorbed, which isn't
>>> true but assuming that anyway will give us a maximum limit.
>>> It takes 1.4 seconds for a watermelon released from rest to fall to the
>>> ground. During this time, it will absorb 275 W * 1.4 sec = 400 joules roughly.
>>>
>>> Since the average watermelon is about 20 pounds or 9 kilograms,
>>> we can find the speed this 400 Joules could generate:
>>> 400 J = (1/2)mv^2 = (1/2)*(9 kg)*v^2
>>> so
>>> v = 9.4 m/s if ALL of the photonic energy is absorbed and converted into
>>> kinetic energy rather than heat or anything else.
>>>
>>> But the watermelon is observed to have a speed of 9.8 m/s^2 * 1.4 sec =
>>> 13.7 m/s, which can be measured with a light strobe, a camera, and a
>>> meter stick mounted at ground level.
>>> *************************************************
>>> ??
>> You've truly surpassed yourself.
>>
>> And I don't mean that in a good way.
>>
>> What has the kinetic energy due to the absorption of light got to do
>> with the speed the melon reaches under the influence of gravity?
>>
>> Sylvia.
> 
> Exactly. You have to ask to Bodkin, not to me. There you have the timestamp of his post by then.
> 
> And he's an advocate of relativity.
> 
> Did you find the error(s)?

Your post fits into the "not even wrong" category. Heads up - that's not 
a good thing.

Sylvia.

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Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-11 22:20 -0800
  Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-03-12 19:44 +1100
    Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 03:48 -0800
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-03-13 10:07 +1100
        Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 16:10 -0800
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2022-03-13 16:51 +1100
            Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 22:05 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 13:29 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 06:48 -0700
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 13:29 +0000
  Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-12 11:37 +0100
  Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 15:06 +0000
    Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 10:13 -0800
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 19:34 +0000
        Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 11:55 -0800
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 20:13 +0000
            Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 12:48 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 21:06 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 14:52 -0800
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 00:13 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-03-12 20:59 -0500
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 20:35 -0800
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 12:34 +0000
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-12 12:07 -0800
      Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-12 22:55 +0100
        Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 22:12 +0000
          Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-12 23:46 +0100
            Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 14:55 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 14:58 -0800
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Vaugn Rhea <var@bfrlsr.ni> - 2022-03-12 23:12 +0000
              Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 00:14 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-12 20:41 -0800
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 12:35 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 06:29 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 13:33 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 06:49 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 14:01 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-03-13 16:58 +0100
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 09:26 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 20:51 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 20:57 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 14:09 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-03-13 22:44 +0100
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 16:15 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 00:06 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-13 21:15 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-03-14 02:55 -0400
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 00:31 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-03-14 10:45 +0100
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 10:48 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-14 08:57 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 09:39 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 17:05 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2022-03-14 14:43 -0400
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2022-03-14 22:22 +0100
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 14:26 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-15 00:51 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-14 22:13 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-15 10:36 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-13 11:17 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-14 22:55 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-16 09:03 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 10:16 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 17:30 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 10:58 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 19:18 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 13:03 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 14:21 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 21:37 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvandemoortel@notmail.com> - 2022-03-16 23:16 +0100
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 22:27 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-16 16:37 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-17 17:22 -0700
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                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 21:21 +0000
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-18 21:54 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 22:21 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-03-18 23:10 -0700
                Re: Bodkin physics: Watermelons in free fall and solar radiation Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2022-03-18 23:42 -0700
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