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Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Subject Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles
Date 2021-12-25 08:15 +0100
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Am 24.12.2021 um 19:34 schrieb Michael Moroney:

>>>> You said, that stone is somehow plastic, while common stone is not.
>>>>
>>>> If rocks would actually deform upon stress, than the Alps, for
>>>> instance, would look entirely different than they actually look like.
>>>
>>> REAL engineers (not you) who design bridges etc. take into account the
>>> elasticity of, for example, concrete (similar to rock), when designing
>>> bridges. They know the concrete will BEND a limited amount before
>>> breaking.
>>>
>>> REAL engineers learn of stress/strain curves of materials, and how to a
>>> certain point materials are elastic (deform under stress and return to
>>> before when stress is removed), plastic under larger stress (deform and
>>> DON'T return to before) and under even larger stress, break.
>>
>> Real engineers would not think, you meant serious, what you have written.
>
> Real engineers would look the modulus of elasticity, elasticity limit,
> yield strength and ultimate strength for various types of stone, and
> then stating an answer.

Sure, if you are an architect or similar and want to design a bridge, 
this is something you would usually do.

But not all engineers build bridges.

> Which is what you would have done, had you retained any of your
> engineering abilities. But apparently you didn't.

It is one of the usual habbits of the 'bad guys' to attack the person 
instead of argumenting about a subject.


>> Elastic is not the same as plastic. And concrete, for instance, has
>> next to no plasticity once it has hardend.
>
> "Next to no" must mean not none, correct?  So at some point even hard
> concrete is still plastic?

No

'next to none' means 'very little'.

>
>> Typical stones are granite or basalt for instance.
>>
>> You could cut a sheet of that, put it in a bending machine and see
>> what happens.
>
> Buy a sheet from these guys: https://meodedpaint.com/meoded-slate-lite/

Quote

"Meoded Slate is the latest and hottest product in the industrial and 
residential design world. These paper-thin, stone veneers are made from 
100% natural stone, which is reinforced by fiberglass, cotton, or a 
translucent backing for added stability and easy processing."

IOW: that is not rock, which was bent, but an artificial material, which 
looks like stone.

...

>>>>
>>>> In GE the Alps were created below the surface of the ocean, hence are
>>>> covered with marine sediments and fossils (what they are)
>>>>
>>>> PT assumes, that the Alps were folded upwards, what is bunk.
>>>
>>> They folded upward from under the sea.  The folds in the rock are
>>> OBVIOUS.
>>
>> ????
>>
>> The Alps do not look even remotely like being folded at any time in
>> the past.
>
> WHAT? https://www.pinterest.com/pin/387872586655793311/

Let's talk about this picture, where you can see an array of curved 
sheets in a rock formation.

So far, so good.

But what makes you think, this formation was created by folding flat 
sheets of rock?

Iow: from where did you draw the conclusion, that what is an array of 
curved sheets of rock now must have been an array of flat sheets of rock 
before?

E.g. rock maintains volume very well, hence we would expect, that a 
certain volume of the flat array is represented by the same volume of 
the curved array.


This could only be achieved, if the sheets slide against each other in 
the process of bending.

But then the sheets would have been torn away from their local 
'neighbor' and we would expect an array of loose sheets, what we don't see.

To me the formation looks as if the array was soft, when it was bent and 
hardend later. That formation torned into rock even later.

Soft layered materials like sediments can be bent, of course, while 
cristalline rock cannot, because it would break.


...

TH

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                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-24 15:09 +0000
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                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-26 15:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common    traits of these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-27 21:39 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-27 16:11 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-28 07:59 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-28 02:27 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-29 07:17 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-29 08:47 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 03:50 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-28 14:19 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-29 07:00 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-29 05:23 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2021-12-29 19:04 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-29 12:06 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-30 08:12 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-30 05:24 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-30 14:40 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 11:46 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-30 08:23 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-30 12:49 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-28 13:45 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-24 13:01 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-24 13:34 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-25 08:15 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-25 13:02 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-25 21:04 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-26 15:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-27 16:28 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-26 15:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common   traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-27 21:48 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-28 13:45 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-28 10:57 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2021-12-28 18:19 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-29 02:45 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common   traits of these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-29 07:23 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-29 08:19 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 03:26 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-30 08:27 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-30 14:51 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 03:22 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Mason Hess <cvb@bnma.ui> - 2021-12-29 11:51 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 11:34 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-12-17 18:03 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-16 11:39 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 17:20 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-12 23:36 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-13 22:05 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 19:50 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 20:31 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2021-12-14 11:41 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 13:15 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-14 10:40 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 08:13 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 17:44 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 17:57 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 18:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 08:19 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 08:51 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-15 15:35 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-12-17 05:25 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-17 16:21 +0100
                Growing Earth theory (was Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common    traits of these stubborn imbeciles) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-10 23:12 +0100
                Re: Growing Earth theory (was Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 15:24 -0800
                Re: Growing Earth theory (was Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common    traits of these stubborn imbeciles) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-11 09:10 +0100
      Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 22:47 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:19 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:52 -0800
          Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-01 12:14 -0500
            Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 09:42 -0800
            Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 10:57 -0800
              Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 19:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 12:20 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 21:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 16:41 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 18:17 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 20:07 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 20:47 -0800
              Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-02 01:11 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 22:22 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-03 00:26 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 22:15 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 22:35 -0800
  Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 08:29 -0800
    Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> - 2021-11-29 23:59 +0000
  Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 08:57 -0800
    Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 20:13 +0000
      Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 07:27 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 10:45 -0500
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:17 +0000
          Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 13:59 -0800
            Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 22:21 +0000
              Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 15:57 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 00:13 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:26 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 22:51 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:18 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 13:40 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:18 -0800
    Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-28 20:29 -0500
      Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 07:16 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 10:42 -0500
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:17 +0000

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