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Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles
Date 2021-12-11 09:23 +0100
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Am 11.12.2021 um 03:09 schrieb Michael Moroney:
> On 12/10/2021 3:49 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 10.12.2021 um 15:11 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 09.12.2021 um 16:56 schrieb Odd Bodkin:
>>>>> Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Plate tectonics is bunk, because the mechanism called 'subduction'
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except it does work, and it is actually observed to happen at plate
>>>>> boundaries, especially deep ocean ones. It is rather foolish to say
>>>>> that
>>>>> something that is observed to happen cannot happen.
>>>>
>>>> You cannot observe subduction, unless you want to watch a rock over
>>>> several millenia.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course you can observe subduction. Friction and tension release at
>>> plate
>>> boundaries due to subduction are easily observed. You only need
>>> movement of
>>> a few centimeters to show that.
>>
>> Earth' growth is extremely slow.
>>
>> So, you need several millenia to have something measurable.
>>
>> Usual 'grids' for geological developments are million years or 100,000
>> years.
>>
>> A millenium is a little too short and a year is for the Earth what is
>> is microsecond for us.
>>
>> But small expansions causes actually significant increase of the
>> surface area, because the radius is huge and goes quadratic into the
>> equation.
>
> [...]
>>
>> The opposite to spreading is subduction, about which plate tectonic
>> assumes it would balance the obvious spreading
>>
>
>> PT needs subduction, to maintain the hypothesis of a constant size of
>> the planet, because that extra surface needs to be swept under the rug
>> (what is called 'subduction').
>>
>>
>>
>> But supposed you like to prove by observation, that plates actually
>> vanish beneath the Andes,  you would need to watch these plates long
>> enough, that a measurable distance vanished under South America.
>>
>> Since you need to prove, in which direction the plate actually moves,
>> a few meter should vanish, before you can be certain.
>>
>> A few millenia are certainly sufficiant.
>>
>> Have fun watching!
>
> I love how this is worded. It is essentially saying "Growing Earth is
> very slow, it will take millennia to see any effect, but that's OK since
> the earth is very old, so you should believe anyway." vs. "Subduction
> takes so long to happen you need to wait so long for even a meter to
> vanish, so you can't be certain, plus it's literally sweeping something
> under a rug. Have fun waiting [for something that's absurd] to happen!


Well, to me it's not absurd, since I had the mechanism first and wanted 
to use Growing Earth as proof of concept.

I have spent a lot of time on than subject and found several ways to 
prove, that GE is actually true.

A relatively simple one is a video by comic artist neal Adams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ


But I could write for hours about other arguments, too, if you like.


>> Besides of the fact, that a constant size of a celestial body is
>> actually a very unlikely scenario, the assumed mechanism required to
>> keep this theory are totally illogic, too.
>
> "Very unlikely scenario" ? Since various conservation laws exist, it
> seems that a celestial body remaining a constant size is the most likely
> scenario unless something is actively acting on it.


what is unlikely in the assumption, that celestial bodies have a 
constant size?

Well, first they had to pop into existence at their mature size.

But we know from experience, that this is not how nature functions.

We actually know, that celestial bodies like stars grow over time.

So: why should planets not grow, too?


Growing Earth does in fact violate certain assumptions about the 
behaviour of matter. But it was actually my aim to show, that matter 
does not behave in such ways, because I tried to proove my own concept 
called 'structured spacetime'.

According to this idea matter is not composed from matter itself, but is 
actually a for of nothing. I called this 'nothing' timelike stable 
patterns' of/in spacetime.

I have also written a 'book' about that concept. But not too many people 
were interested.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing 


So I decided, that I needed new and better arguments. And 'Growing 
Earth'seemed fitting.



TH

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                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-21 08:38 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-21 09:51 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-21 07:31 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-24 09:34 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-24 15:09 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common   traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-25 08:26 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-26 15:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common    traits of these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-27 21:39 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-27 16:11 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-28 07:59 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-28 02:27 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-29 07:17 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-29 08:47 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 03:50 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-28 14:19 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-29 07:00 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-29 05:23 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2021-12-29 19:04 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-29 12:06 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-30 08:12 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paparios <mrios@ing.puc.cl> - 2021-12-30 05:24 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-30 14:40 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 11:46 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-30 08:23 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-30 12:49 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-28 13:45 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-24 13:01 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-24 13:34 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-25 08:15 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-25 13:02 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-25 21:04 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-26 15:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-27 16:28 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-26 15:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common   traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-27 21:48 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-28 13:45 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-28 10:57 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2021-12-28 18:19 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-29 02:45 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common   traits of these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-29 07:23 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common  traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-29 08:19 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 03:26 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of   these stubborn imbeciles Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-30 08:27 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of  these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-30 14:51 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 03:22 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Mason Hess <cvb@bnma.ui> - 2021-12-29 11:51 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-29 11:34 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-12-17 18:03 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-16 11:39 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 17:20 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-12 23:36 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-13 22:05 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 19:50 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 20:31 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2021-12-14 11:41 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 13:15 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-14 10:40 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 08:13 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 17:44 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 17:57 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Vaugn Rhea <wert@cvb.er> - 2021-12-18 18:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Prokaryotic Capase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 08:19 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 08:51 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-15 15:35 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2021-12-17 05:25 +0100
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-17 16:21 +0100
                Growing Earth theory (was Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common    traits of these stubborn imbeciles) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2021-12-10 23:12 +0100
                Re: Growing Earth theory (was Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles) Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-12-10 15:24 -0800
                Re: Growing Earth theory (was Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common    traits of these stubborn imbeciles) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2021-12-11 09:10 +0100
      Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 22:47 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:19 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:52 -0800
          Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-01 12:14 -0500
            Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 09:42 -0800
            Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 10:57 -0800
              Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 19:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 12:20 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 21:00 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 16:41 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 18:17 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 20:07 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles "Dono." <eggy20011951@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 20:47 -0800
              Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-02 01:11 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 22:22 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-12-03 00:26 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 22:15 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2021-12-02 22:35 -0800
  Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 08:29 -0800
    Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Chason Aceta <pipre@cvbe.er> - 2021-11-29 23:59 +0000
  Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 08:57 -0800
    Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 20:13 +0000
      Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 07:27 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 10:45 -0500
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:17 +0000
          Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 13:59 -0800
            Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 22:21 +0000
              Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 15:57 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 00:13 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:26 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 22:51 -0500
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:18 -0800
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 13:40 +0000
                Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 23:18 -0800
    Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-28 20:29 -0500
      Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Ken Seto <setoken47@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 07:16 -0800
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-30 10:42 -0500
        Re: Richard Hertz, Ed Lake, Ken Seto, Pat Dolan-the common traits of these stubborn imbeciles Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 16:17 +0000

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