Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac...

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac...
Date	2020-11-18 21:21 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2020-11-18, Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> wrote:
> On 2020-11-18 02:21, JF Mezei wrote:
>
>> Big picture: competitors will also move ahead. Intel may be stuck ion
>> molasses, but AMD is forging ahead at high speed. NVIDIA is moving at
>> light speed for GPUs.
>
> Better picture:
>
> In Mx Macs the core functionality is in a tiny area of the system 
> whereas x86 integration is by disparate parts making extreme tight 
> integration much less likely or possible.
>
> That's before bringing up the OS...

FUDsters gotta FUD...

From: <https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs>

Rosetta is a marvel — the exemplification of “it just works”.
x86-compiled apps run just about as fast as they do on the most
expensive Intel-based MacBook Pros, and faster, by a long shot, than on
the last and best Intel-based MacBook Air. 

Let that sink in: apps compiled for Intel run *faster* in *translation*
on the M1 than they do on *actual* Intel CPUs in MacBook Airs and most
MacBook Pros. 

Here, fine, I’ll show a few benchmarks from Geekbench (single-core /
multi-core):

       16-inch MacBook Pro (2019, 8-core Core i9): 1,160 / 7,160
               MacBook Air (2020, 4-core Core i5): 1,050 / 2,410
M1 MacBook Pro (x86 benchmark running in Rosetta): 1,260 / 5,600
             M1 MacBook Pro (native M1 benchmark): 1,730 / 7,530

You just don’t have to worry about Rosetta, period. The first time you
launch an Intel app, MacOS will ask you if you want to install Rosetta.
Agree, and installation flies by in a jiff — mere seconds — and after
that, you’ll just never notice whether something is compiled for Intel
or native Apple Silicon. You don’t have to worry about extensions (like
for Safari or Finder) being matched — Intel extensions run just fine in
Apple Silicon apps. Dropbox, for example, is still an Intel app but it
runs just fine, including Finder integration.

Rosetta performs great and compatibility is seemingly seamless. This is
a technical tour de force, a home run for Apple that will mostly go
unheralded by typical users because the entire point is that they
shouldn't notice or care.

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JR

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Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-16 16:54 -0500
  Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> - 2020-11-17 00:53 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:45 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2020-11-17 10:04 -0800
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-18 12:20 +0000
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-19 09:42 +1300
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 18:05 +0000
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:44 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:12 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:46 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:20 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2020-11-18 15:15 -0600
  Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2020-11-17 04:40 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2020-11-17 00:04 -0800
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:40 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:16 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 20:54 -0500
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-11-17 08:27 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne- <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:46 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 17:54 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne- <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:55 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 12:40 -0500
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 18:03 +0000
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:10 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 20:54 -0500
            Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-18 02:21 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-18 07:24 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-19 11:16 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-19 11:43 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 10:45 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 15:06 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-19 12:17 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-19 12:41 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 12:49 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-20 19:09 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 00:46 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-21 15:01 +1300
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 10:59 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:08 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-18 21:21 +0000
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 16:39 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 12:03 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-20 14:05 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-11-20 19:18 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 15:50 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-20 19:38 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 03:27 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-21 09:47 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:51 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:39 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 21:38 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-21 10:42 +1300
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-20 16:57 -0500
            Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 14:58 +0000
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 16:23 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:10 -0500

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