Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac...

Subject	Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac...
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
References	(3 earlier) <171120201240455000%nospam@nospam.invalid> <Nv_sH.1482$xe4.309@fx41.iad> <171120202054065457%nospam@nospam.invalid> <slrnrradl7.4f3.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> <slrnrraijm.e7n.g.kreme@ProMini.lan>
From	Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg>
Message-ID	<KketH.83$lP1.33@fx37.iad> (permalink)
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Date	2020-11-18 14:10 -0500

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On 2020-11-18 11:23, Lewis wrote:
> In message <slrnrradl7.4f3.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <171120202054065457%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <Nv_sH.1482$xe4.309@fx41.iad>, Alan Browne
>>> <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> I don't like the fixed memory option though - I liked that I could
>>>>>> purchase the iMac with min mem and then order upgrades at much lower
>>>>>> cost from crucial or the other guys.  My next iMac will be at least 32
>>>>>> GB if not 64 (assuming that's offered - I wouldn't be shocked to see
>>>>>> 128).  I'd be delighted if there is user upgradeable memory but I'm
>>>>>> certainly not expecting it.
>>>>>
>>>>> there likely will be in higher end models.
>>>>>
>>>>> this is the *beginning* of the transition, not the end.
>>>>
>>>> The M1 has the memory modules (2) on the same chip carrier as the M1 as
>>>> far as I can see.  Possibly very tight coupling to the M1 chip.  Putting
>>>> the memory on a separate carrier might make impedance matching / speed
>>>> an issue.  To be seen.
> 
>>> the m1 is the first of 'a family'.
> 
>>> future members of the clan will either have more onboard memory or a
>>> way to add it separately, perhaps even both.
> 
>> On a guess, I look at what Apple did with the Mac Pro and I think
>> something along those lines with two M1s basically meshed together into
>> one super-high speed SoC might be what we see in the next round of MBPs,
>> giving 16 cores of CPU, 16 cores of GPU and 4 USB4 ports.
> 
>> Memory seems to be much more efficient, as things that were not really
>> doable without at least 16GB of RAM and really you wanted more are
>> doable on the M1 with 8 without breaking a sweat.
> 
>> Another report from the low-end M1 MBP, "more than 100 tabs open in
>> Chrome and editing 4K video while Xcode [is also open] is like editing
>> on my iMac Pro."
> 
> Then there is this:
> <https://sixcolors.com/post/2020/11/m1-macs-review/>
> "Based on my testing, it’s also safe to say that all three M1-based
> Macs, these low-end systems at the bottom of Apple’s price lists, are
> among the fastest Macs ever made."
> 
> and
> 
> "To be clear, all three of these M1-based Macs are faster than every
> currently shipping Mac except for the Mac Pro, the iMac Pro, and the
> very highest-end configurations of the 5K iMac—the 8- and 10-core i9
> configurations released earlier this year and the 8-core i9 model
> released last year."

Which puts a stopper in me even thinking about the i7 8 core HT.

I'll wait for the Mx iMac or higher end mini.

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Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-16 16:54 -0500
  Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> - 2020-11-17 00:53 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:45 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2020-11-17 10:04 -0800
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-18 12:20 +0000
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-19 09:42 +1300
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 18:05 +0000
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:44 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:12 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:46 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:20 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2020-11-18 15:15 -0600
  Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2020-11-17 04:40 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2020-11-17 00:04 -0800
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:40 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:16 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 20:54 -0500
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-11-17 08:27 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne- <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:46 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 17:54 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne- <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:55 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 12:40 -0500
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 18:03 +0000
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:10 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 20:54 -0500
            Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-18 02:21 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-18 07:24 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-19 11:16 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-19 11:43 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 10:45 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 15:06 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-19 12:17 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-19 12:41 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 12:49 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-20 19:09 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 00:46 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-21 15:01 +1300
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 10:59 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:08 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-18 21:21 +0000
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 16:39 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 12:03 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-20 14:05 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-11-20 19:18 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 15:50 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-20 19:38 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 03:27 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-21 09:47 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:51 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:39 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 21:38 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-21 10:42 +1300
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-20 16:57 -0500
            Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 14:58 +0000
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 16:23 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:10 -0500

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