Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac...

From	Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac...
Date	2020-11-18 15:06 +0000
Organization	Miskatonic U
Message-ID	<slrnrrae2p.4f3.g.kreme@ProMini.lan> (permalink)
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In message <HX3tH.10482$2j.1075@fx38.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2020-11-17 20:54, nospam wrote:

>> the m1 is the first of 'a family'.
>> 
>> future members of the clan will either have more onboard memory or a
>> way to add it separately, perhaps even both.

> Big picture: competitors will also move ahead.

Unlikely that anyone can replicate what Apple has done, and they won't
be able to even start to try for years.

> Intel may be stuck ion molasses, but AMD is forging ahead at high
> speed. NVIDIA is moving at light speed for GPUs.

It doedsn't seem to matter, the one advantage that seems clear from the
M1 si that the tight integration yeilds massive benefits, not just the
tight integration of the M1, but the fact that the chips are optimized
for the operating system and the operating system is optimized for the
chips. Qualcomm is still years behind Apple, and every year the gap
widens.

Intel can't do that, they don't write the OS. NVidia can't do that. AMD
can't do that.

> How long it takes for Apple to roll out the full family from the watch
> to the Mac Pro will dictate how well they can keep up woth AMD/NVIDIA
> and stay ahead of them.

The Apple Silicon transition, Apple has said repeatedly, is 2 years.

Watches, phones, and iPads have been Apple Silicon for years. The watch
has always been Apple Silicon.

> Apple did very well in chip development for IOS devices. Rapid pace and
> stayd ahead of the pack. But once you add the full range of computers to
> their workload, How often can Apple release new chip for each market
> segment?  Remember rhat this now includes the GPU as well. So Apple is
> competing against Intel for laptops, AMD for higher end computers and
> NVIDIA for GPUs.

And kicking their asses.

You literally cannot buy a non-Apple computer with the capabilities of
the $699 Mac mini for under $2000, and you would have to build that
yourself, and I am not actually sure it is possible because I can't find
any support out there for USB4 on the white-box market. Granted, didn't
look that hard, but fuck it's hard to find support for non-crippled TB3.

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Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-16 16:54 -0500
  Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> - 2020-11-17 00:53 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:45 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... RonTheGuy <ron@null.invalid> - 2020-11-17 10:04 -0800
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... bje@ripco.com - 2020-11-18 12:20 +0000
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-19 09:42 +1300
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 18:05 +0000
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:44 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:12 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:46 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:20 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2020-11-18 15:15 -0600
  Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2020-11-17 04:40 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2020-11-17 00:04 -0800
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-18 08:40 +1300
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:16 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 20:54 -0500
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2020-11-17 08:27 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne- <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:46 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 17:54 +0000
    Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne- <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-17 11:55 -0500
      Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 12:40 -0500
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-17 18:03 +0000
        Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-17 20:10 -0500
          Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-17 20:54 -0500
            Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-18 02:21 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-18 07:24 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-19 11:16 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-19 11:43 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 10:45 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 15:06 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-19 12:17 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-19 12:41 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 12:49 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-20 19:09 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 00:46 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-21 15:01 +1300
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 10:59 -0500
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:08 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2020-11-18 21:21 +0000
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 16:39 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 12:03 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-20 14:05 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Tim <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2020-11-20 19:18 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-20 15:50 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2020-11-20 19:38 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-21 03:27 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-21 09:47 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:51 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2020-11-21 11:39 -0500
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-20 21:38 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2020-11-21 10:42 +1300
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-20 16:57 -0500
            Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 14:58 +0000
              Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> - 2020-11-18 16:23 +0000
                Re: Mac OS 11 - end of OS for my iMac... Alan Browne <Blackhole@entropy.ultimateorg> - 2020-11-18 14:10 -0500

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