Re: RT-Widerlegung

From	Ernst Sauer <Ernst.Sauer@kabelmail.de>
Newsgroups	de.sci.physik
Subject	Re: RT-Widerlegung
Date	2020-08-07 14:08 +0200
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Am 06.08.2020 um 18:14 schrieb Kurt:
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> 
> Eine kleine Frage:
> 
> Eine Uhr in der Kiste, eine ausserhalb.
> 
> Verhalten sich beide Uhren unterschiedlich?
> 
>   Kurt

Es geht nicht um das Verhalten, sondern um das Beobachten von Uhren.

Am besten nimmt man wieder Einsteins Zug.
Am Bahnsteig steht der Beobachter B und beobachtet den fahrenden Zug,
der relativ zu B die Geschwindigkeit w haben soll.
Im Zug sitzt der Beobachter Z und wirft eine Balluhr mit der
Geschwindigkeit v einmal nach vorn und einmal nach hinten
(oder 2 Uhren simultan).
Die Eigenzeiten sind in beiden Fällen gleich, weshalb es
hier keinen Gangunterschied gibt.
Sind die Fenster zugehängt, kann Z die Geschwindigkeit w nicht
spüren oder beobachten.

Dann beobachtet B den Vorgang.
Nach vorne hat der Ball die Geschwindigkeit w+v, nach hinten w-v.
Die Eigenzeiten sind nicht mehr gleich,
B beobachtet also einen Gangunterschied.

Das ist aber der Uhr egal, wer da was misst.
Es gibt kein unterschiedliches Verhalten der Uhren, wenn der eine oder der andere misst.

Es ist auch einem fliegenden Vogel völlig egal, wenn B und Z ihn beobachten,
solange die beiden nicht auf ihn schießen.

es

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  Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Torn Rumero DeBrak <nobody@invalid.invalid> - 2020-07-27 20:20 +0200
    Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2020-07-27 21:47 +0200
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        Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Helmut Wabnig <hwabnig@.- --- -.dotat> - 2020-07-28 10:26 +0200
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            Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 08:46 +0200
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                Re: annotated version of 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies' Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2020-07-29 09:09 +0200
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