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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft end of support dates |
| Date | 2020-07-16 17:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <hnc8edF6b7dU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 7/16/20 4:28 PM, Diesel wrote:
...
>> You have a strong tendency to put words in my mouth.
>
> I wasn't sure I did that the last time you made the accusation, so I
> errored on the side of caution and apologized for it regardless. This
> time, I didn't do what you claimed, so I won't be apologizing for it.
So you have a misunderstanding. You can focus on that or you can focus
on moving forward in peace. I trust Joel to do as I do, move forward in
peace EVEN IF you two never agree on, or even delve into, if you did or
did not do as he says.
> You specifically told Snit no, and provided generic excuses for why
> you wrote no. I wasn't putting any words in your mouth when I
> compared the differences in what I told him vs what you told him.
His excuse was not "generic" -- it was specific to the question. He
showed he understood it and knew where my likely confusion might come from.
>> Of course there should be a way to copy those files, but it
>> wouldn't be any less trouble than just putting in my Gmail
>> password, etc., to the various sites I use.
>
> How do you figure that? I'm literally talking about cp one folder
> contents to another here. Or using the DE if you'd prefer. You can
> login to each of those sites faster than your computer can just
> duplicate your entire configuration?
>
>> Bookmarks would just be a simple export and
>> import from the Ubuntu Firefox to the Mozilla generic Linux
>> Firefox. But neither method is worthwhile since Ubuntu releases
>> updates to Firefox regularly.
>
> You don't even have to bother. You could just copy your profile over
> to the other firefox, easily. That'll take care of your bookmarks,
> logins, cookies, history, even your cache if you want to keep it,
> assuming you don't clear it each time you close the browser. No
> fucking around inside the browser to export/import things, just copy
> the damn folder.
OK, here he speaks of a different method and you suggest one that might
be better. And your method is fine. If Joel seems confused about what
you are saying it makes sense to be more specific with folder locations
and the like.
This is you being on topic and relevant in a suggestion when you have
some reason to think he might not know. I commend you for that.
>>> He doesn't
>>> seem to know the folders location or the actual names of the files
>>> he needs to copy.
>>
>> I could find that out, though, if it were important to me.
>
> Fact is, you don't currently know the location to your browsers
> profile right?
In case he does not, it will give him the direct path in Help >
Troubleshooting under "Profile Folder".
See: this might be a better way to move things along faster -- there is
a good chance he DOES know, but in case he does not that right there
will tell him. Perhaps you did not know that method to quickly find it.
Maybe you did.
>>> I do, it's why I wrote what I did. It's how I keep
>>> all my computers with the same bookmarks on them. They aren't all
>>> even using the same OS, but since I know where the important files
>>> are and what they are named, that doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> Snit, cluebyfour, we disagreed with each other in our replies to
>>> you. I don't see how that's more concise and clear for you. He
>>> told you no, I told you yes and went onto tell you what else you
>>> could copy over if you wanted to do so. He was concerned with
>>> losing things - if he really knew what he was doing, he wouldn't
>>> be losing anything, and wouldn't have told you no.
>>
>> I never said anything about "losing" things, that's not at all
>> what I meant to say, either - it's just that the Ubuntu Firefox
>> already has all my sites logged in, etc., why would I need to get
>> the latest Firefox from Mozilla when I know Ubuntu will release it
>> within a few days?
>
> You don't. I didn't say you had to, I simply said that you could, and
> keep all of your things as you did so. Which is contradictory to what
> you told Snit:
>
> Message-ID: <qntmgfh3ts90tn40d7r5aig6f967h0fuqs@4ax.com>
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
I was asking about it wiping the history -- with the context being in
the first copy. It would not... but it also would not copy it to the new
installation. The part I was missing was that the new installation would
not look at the same settings. He answered just fine.
But, sure, it make sense to let him know, just in case, that it is
pretty easy to transfer the settings over. If you wished to do that it
would make sense to speak of the profile folder and how to find it. I
*suspect* his response, given his level of concern, would be that even
that simple procedure would not be worth it to him (especially when he
will be likely switching back to the "main" version soon).
None of this needs to be drama.
...
>>> And, he'd know the non distro build doesn't have to be installed
>>> into his /home folder, either. It could be installed to the same
>>> location as the already existing one,
>>
>> Not true. I don't have write access to where Ubuntu's Firefox is
>> stored. It's also not precisely the same version, so I'd risk
>> breaking something, trying to replace it. It's just better to get
>> updates from Ubuntu.
>
> Actually, by default, the OS is hand holding you, but there's
> absolutely nothing stopping you from changing the folder permissions
> so that you can write to it, if you wanted to do so. Or, just temp
> use the root account to do that, but you don't need write access to
> that profile folder to copy it's contents to the non distro installed
> one.
>
> As for the slight differences in versions, it's not what you're
> thinking, Typically the latest edition of firefox will accept the
> profile from the previous version and versions going back a
> considerable ways. It might 'convert' or otherwise update your
> profile files to the current version though. Which means, you
> wouldn't be able to use that profile with an older copy of firefox
> anymore. But, that still doesn't matter, because it's the profile you
> copied for that install of firefox anyway.
When the distro updated its version would it copy over the already
installed one?
...
>> I didn't mention doing that, but it is true that I use the history
>> to find sites again at times.
>
> Yea, it's a very common thing that a lot of people do. :) Why do you
> suppose the browser even retains a history? heh.
Good to see you understood this... as I described to you recently:
Diesel:
-----
Hell Snit, as part of my data backup procedures, my
browsers data folder is also backed up. So I can easily
restore my previous browsing experience if something
breaks. I've got a lot of custom bookmarks, and logins for
electronics related sites, so I too need my browser to
remember things for me. And like Joel, I take advantage of
browser history to quickly return to some site I found
interesting but didn't have the time on my last visit to
explore as much as I wanted.
-----
Joel:
-----
I didn't mention doing that, but it is true that I use the
history to find sites again at times.
-----
Snit:
-----
Diesel is bragging he uses, sigh, his browser history.
Really? Does he not get that a large part of the reason
browsers keep such a history is to allow the very thing
being described? It is not like he has found some clever
use for it!
Now if he was merely showing his workflow and asking about
how others did things that would be fine -- but he assumes
he is doing something special. It is weird how he can know
so much about computers but be completely clueless as to
how they tend to be used.
-----
Now you seem to agree with what I noted. Excellent!
>> I'm not really into holding grudges at this point in my life. We
>> could argue over "whose fault it is", or we could just move on and
>> have some interesting discussions, and I'm glad we seem to prefer
>> the latter.
>
> Sure, why not. You haven't as far as I know tried to pass off any
> horse shit stories about me; so I have no issues with you. The same
> obviously cannot be said of your friend, Snit, though. He told a hell
> of a porkie, and hasn't been able to backup a single bit of it. I
> confess, it's amusing watching him squirm and wiggle around so much.
> It really is. David does it a lot too, for the same reasons. They
> don't lie all that well. :)
You say I try to present you as not understanding what you read -- but
when I have gone into quite some detail no less than 14 times, and then
noted those 14 times several times as well, it is a clear sign of your
failure to understand (or at least pretend to fail) when you say I have
not backed up what I said. Fourteen times I have. At least.
I get that you might not AGREE. That is cool. But the fact you cannot
even understand, or pretend not to, does not speak well of you.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
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