Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM?
Date	2017-05-14 23:49 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2017-05-14, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> On 2017-05-14 3:10 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2017-05-14, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>> In article <ofabrk$vp8$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan Baker
>>> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2017-05-14 12:17 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's very simple: Use safe computing practices. And don't fit it if it's
>>>>> not broken. Unless you are experiencing a problem with symptoms that are
>>>>> tied directly to adware or malware, there is no reason (it's not wise)
>>>>> to install such utilities on your machine.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but in what way is it "not wise" to simply install and use a
>>>> utility such as MalwareBytes Anti-Malware?
>>>
>>> To do what? To stop the zero viruses there are for OS X? Why should I
>>> install some piece of software that may, for all I know, hook into the
>>> OS at some low level and either introduce bugs or expose it to
>>> problems. Or, worst case, be entirely fake and be malware itself.
>>
>> Yep, and it has been demonstrated time and again that anti-virus
>> utilities (especially the ones written for macOS) are notoriously buggy
>> and ineffective, often causing more problems than they actually solve.
>> Running them when there are no symptoms and no problems is unwise.
>
> Show were that has been demonstrated.

Sure:

---
Google security researchers have discovered a bug in Mac antivirus
software that exposes Macs to remote hacking. The critical vulnerability
was discovered last November, in ESET’s Endpoint Antivirus 6 for macOS,
by Google Security Team members Jason Geffner and Jan Bee.

According to ESET’s website, the software provides “comprehensive
endpoint protection for macOS” and “eliminates all types of threats,
including viruses, rootkits, worms and spyware.”

As it turns out, an update made to ESET’s antivirus package in October
2016 contained an outdated XML parsing library from 2007. The result was
that vulnerable versions of ESET Endpoint Antivirus 6 “do not perform
proper server authentication, allowing for remote unauthenticated
attackers to perform arbitrary code execution as root on vulnerable
clients,” the Google researchers wrote in their full vulnerability
disclosure.

The old parser library in question is the POCO XML parser library, which
is known to be vulnerable to a buffer overflow bug. The XML library bug
allows malicious agents to perform man-in-the-middle attacks to
intercept licensing credential transfers and deliver malformed XML
documents using a forged HTTPS certificate, granting them root level
privileges to the target Mac.

Once they have the ability to push root-level code execution, hackers
can wreak a significant amount of havoc.
---

<https://www.idropnews.com/news/fast-tech/hazardous-bug-ironically-discovered-mac-antivirus-software/33319/>

---
First, let's look at some of the problems that have been caused, on a
widespread basis, by Symantec's Norton AntiVirus:

Ironically, a "highly critical" flaw was found in Norton AntiVirus. The
vulnerability was as follows: During decompression of RAR files Symantec
is vulnerable to multiple heap overflows allowing attackers complete
control of the system(s) being protected. These vulnerabilities can be
exploited remotely without user interaction in default configurations
through common protocols such as SMTP. Symantec posted an antivirus
based protection signature to LiveUpdate on December 20, 2005, providing
a heuristic detection for potential exploits of the Symantec decomposer
RAR archive vulnerability. The company also recommended that users 'Scan
Compressed Files' to 'Off' in the Norton Auto-Protect pane of System
Preferences to mitigate this vulnerability.
Version 9.0 of Norton Antivirus spawned a file appropriately named
"spacesuckingfile.xxxxxx" after it completed a virus scan. This was a
temporary file that Norton AntiVirus created when scanning archives on
your computer to help determine the amount of free space available on
the disk before it begins unstuffing and scanning archives. The file
contains no actual data and may be deleted. Normally, Norton AntiVirus
deletes this file when scanning the archives is complete, though it may
not be deleted automatically. Version 9.0.1 of Norton AntiVirus resolved
this issue.
The AutoProtect component of Norton AntiVirus produced an issue with
apparent corruption of Mac OS X temp files that could result in spiking
processor usage and complete system unresponsiveness.
Sophos Anti-Virus is another popular tool that has succumbed to its own
flaws in an attempt to "protect" users against a malware threat.

A previous version of Sophos' AntiVirus software generated false
positives for the "OSX/Inqtana.B worm", invoking users to delete
critical application and system files and causing serious issues.
Inqtana.B was a variant of OSX/Inqtana.A -- a Java based proof of
concept bluetooth worm that affects older versions of Mac OS X 10.4.x
(Tiger). The vulnerability did not affect Mac OS X 10.4.5 or Mac OS X
10.4.6, and had not been found in the wild. Despite that, Sophos'
software was identifying "infected" files -- sometimes numbering in the
thousands -- on Mac OS X 10.4.5 systems.

Sophos quickly resolved the issue, but results of the false positives
were, in some cases, disastrous. Users who thought their systems were
infected deleted dozens (in some cases hundreds) of critical files
rendering some applications useless and eliminating important data.

Virex from McAfee (the company that released the aforementioned warning
that Mac malware threats were up more than 200 percent in the past year)
was a component of the .Mac subscribers package up until mid-2005, when
Apple decided to pull the offering due to a number of issues documented
here on MacFixIt, including slow overall system performance, constant
fan activity, degraded performance in some applications and more. We
also posted instructions for removing Virex from a Mac OS X system.
---

<https://www.cnet.com/news/mac-os-x-anti-virus-software-more-trouble-than-its-worth/>

Of course all of this is well known to anyone who has been paying
attention - especially software developers. Next you'll no doubt come up
with some bullshit excuse to discount these as irrelevant or some other
nonsense. You can play that game by yourself. I've got better things to
do than argue with someone who is clearly ignorant and spouting bad
advice here.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-13 14:27 -0400
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-13 21:08 +0000
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                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-16 19:16 -0700
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                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 00:09 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-15 20:12 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 00:16 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-15 20:20 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:17 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:32 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 19:42 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:04 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:36 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:32 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:33 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 16:14 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:57 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 17:00 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:16 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:39 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 03:14 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-15 11:39 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 17:01 +0000
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-14 21:16 +0100
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 13:25 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:53 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 22:10 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:05 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:49 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:50 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 16:16 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:01 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 17:37 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 01:00 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:50 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 03:20 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 05:23 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 15:11 +0000
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 16:52 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 14:05 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 17:27 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 22:18 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:08 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:53 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:02 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 19:26 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 22:14 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:08 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:51 +0000
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-15 11:25 -0400
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 16:48 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-15 19:26 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 00:15 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-16 04:52 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 14:30 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-15 20:20 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-16 04:28 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-16 05:02 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 14:32 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-16 17:39 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-17 22:14 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-16 11:55 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-17 22:13 +0000
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-16 09:09 +1200
          Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-14 13:35 -0600
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-14 21:18 +0100
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-15 10:07 +1200
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-14 17:04 -0400
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 16:20 -0700
          Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:46 +0000
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 23:47 -0700
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-14 11:40 +1200
    Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-14 14:41 +1200
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-15 13:13 -0400
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-18 14:21 +1200
    Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-18 09:18 -0400
      Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-19 09:46 +1200

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