Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM?
Date	2017-05-15 16:14 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<enu2f5F6vklU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2017-05-15, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ens932Fo412U9@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger 
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> > On 2017-05-14, Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
>> > My time isn't worthless
>> 
>> That minute you spend running something needlessly is worthless.
>
> Then why pray tell does Apple give the option to repair permissions in 
> the first place? Why not just "verify the disk"? Or is verifying (and 
> repairing if warranted) the disk useless too in your expert opinion.

Those are two *very* different operations.

Disk Utility's Verify/Repair Permissions function isn't as magical a
tool as a lot of people seem to assume. It's a very simple tool that is
meant to reset the states of ownership and permissions of *only* those
files listed in the receipts of specific software in the receipts
folder. This receipts folder is located at /Library/Receipts in Mac OS X
versions prior to 10.6, and was moved to /private/var/db/receipts
starting with version 10.6.

Repair Permissions reads the contents of each receipt in the receipts
folder to find out which files and folders it should examine. Receipts
are typically created by software installers that use the Mac OS X
built-in /Applications/Utilities/Installer program to install a software
package, though they may be placed into the receipts folder by other
means as well. Receipts typically contain a "Bill of Materials" (BOM)
file that lists each important file and folder in the installed software
package, along with the expected ownership and permissions those files
and folders, according to the install package. Note that Repair
Permissions examines only those files listed by the BOM in each of these
receipts, which means the files in your home folder and the files in the
local domain (/Library for instance) are *not* examined. 

Also, the Repair Permissions tool has a rather serious design flaw: it
does not know how to resolve cases where multiple receipts list the same
file or folder with differing ownership and permissions. This actually
happens fairly frequently, particularly when more than one software
package installs and uses a shared library or other system resource that
happens to be used by another software package. If there are multiple
receipts that list a given file or folder, and the expected ownership
and permissions differ between those two receipts, Repair Permissions
will dutifully encounter the first receipt, change the ownership and
permissions to honor that receipt, then encounter the second receipt and
change the ownership and permissions to honor the second receipt. This
typically manifests itself in Disk Utility's Repair Permissions log as a
file or folder that never seems to be actually repaired, flipping back
and forth between two states.

Once you understand how it works, you see Repair Permissions is not half
as useful or magical as a lot of people seem to believe. I wish more
people understood this - we probably wouldn't see so many Mac users
running Repair Permissions at the drop of the hat or on a regular
schedule as we see so often.  ; )

Bottom line: If you are not experiencing problems with a specific piece
of software listed in the receipts folder, there's no reason to run
Repair Permissions.

Verify/Repair *Disk*, on the other hand, examines the file and directory
structures on the volume to see if there is any directory corruption on
the volume. Typically, the only reason to run this would be if you
suspect or have evidence of problems related to file system access.
Absent those symptoms, there's little reason to run it. So again, if it
ain't broke...

> You seem to believe people who repair permissions and verify the disk do 
> it every day or something.

Unfortunately, many people actually do run Repair Permissions
*routinely* and for no other reason than "just in case":

"I go to repair permissions and I get these files repaired. So, 10 
minutes later I did repair permissions again (I had a hunch)" 

"I use a variety of Macs. Fixing permissions and repairing the HDs on a 
regular basis usually seems to keep things running more smoothly for 
me. 

...in my experience I have found it better to do this on a regular
basis." 

<https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constant-repairing-of-permissions.672265/> 

"I have been repairing permissions via Disk Utility for the past 8 
yrs....... well not CONSTANTLY! LOL When I had my old iBook G4 and 
running Panther I was told to repair permissions periodically" 

<https://macosx.com/threads/is-permissions-repair-still-necessary-in-todays-world.318565/> 

...and *tons* more where that came from. 

> I probably do it once every six months. If 
> you think that's a huge amount of "wasted time" then you are really anal.

If you run it for no reason, then yes, it's a waste of time - time you
could have spent doing something more productive. Whether that amount of
your time is significant or not is for you to decide. For me,
personally, I've got better things to do than babysit my computer. I
will only run Repair Permissions *if* and *when* an application that is
listed in the receipts folder misbehaves, and I deduce that the
malfunction may be related to incorrect permissions for that app.
Otherwise, I simply have no reason to waste my time running Repair
Permissions. : )

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:17 +0000
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                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 19:42 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:04 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:36 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:32 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:33 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 16:14 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:57 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 17:00 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:16 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:39 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 03:14 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-15 11:39 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 17:01 +0000
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-14 21:16 +0100
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 13:25 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:53 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 22:10 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:05 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:49 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:50 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 16:16 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:01 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 17:37 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 01:00 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 01:50 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 03:20 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-15 05:23 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 15:11 +0000
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 16:52 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 14:05 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 17:27 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 22:18 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:08 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:53 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:02 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-14 19:26 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 22:14 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-14 16:08 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-14 23:51 +0000
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-15 11:25 -0400
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 16:48 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-15 19:26 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 00:15 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-16 04:52 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 14:30 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-15 20:20 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-16 04:28 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-05-16 05:02 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-16 14:32 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-16 17:39 -0700
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-17 22:14 +0000
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-16 11:55 -0400
                Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-17 22:13 +0000
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-16 09:09 +1200
          Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-14 13:35 -0600
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-14 21:18 +0100
              Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-15 10:07 +1200
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-14 17:04 -0400
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 16:20 -0700
          Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-15 00:46 +0000
            Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-05-14 23:47 -0700
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-14 11:40 +1200
    Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-14 14:41 +1200
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-15 13:13 -0400
  Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-18 14:21 +1200
    Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-18 09:18 -0400
      Re: Could Mac Files be Ransomwared via Windows XP Running in a VM? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-19 09:46 +1200

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