Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?)

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?)
Date	2017-03-02 20:43 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2017-03-02, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2017-03-02 11:18, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> I had the exact same reaction. Of *course* Migration Assistant
>> migrates system settings. Duh. Honestly, I don't know why the guy
>> bothers to open his mouth. 
>
> The only time I used it was on a "user" basis.

It migrated your system settings (network settings, for instance).

> It is not clear to mw how it works for the "system" level stuff.

You said:

"I am under the impression that migration assistant tends to focus on
apps and user files and settings, not on system settings."

And that's what I responded to. System settings (network, etc) aren't
installed applications and software. Two different things.

> Would it find and copty any unix utilities you addded ? customized
> .plists in the launch daemons ? other directories that are not part of
> a user account ?

If you tell it to migrate "other files and folders" when prompted,
sure.

> And in the case of Snow Leopard to El Capitan, how would migration
> assistant deal with SIP?

If you expect Migration Assistant to bypass SIP just so your old,
crufty, outdated *nix software can continue to run in protected system
directories, you're setting yourself up for failure.

> Say you have unix software in the now forbidden directories. Will
> migration assistant copy them to the special "we found these in
> invalid directories" folder on the new machine or just not do
> anything?
>
> An upgrade does that.

Since I don't install stuff anywhere bu /usr/local which is a
long-standing best practice, I don't care enough to bother looking.
That said I'd expect it to do what upgrading does, since both are
written by Apple, after all.

>> Anyone who has been around *nix for more than a year knows full well
>> the standard location for user-level command-line software installs
>> is /usr/local as a best practice.
>
> Yet, over the years, much software was installed in different
> locations, including the now banned locations.

Not on any of the *many* Macs I've managed during the years. Any *nix
software released in the past decade or two that tried to install
elsewhere was *easily* customized with a simple ./configure switch to
install into /usr/local instead. And, again, most recent versions of
most everything default to /usr/local anyway.

> Software that is still alive has usually be restructure to live in the
> proper directories, but older "dead" software hasn't.

I suspect you are running *really* old versions of said software. Can
you name some real examples?

> *I* didn't place the software in directories that are now banned,

If *you* installed them you certainly did! 

> software installations/make files did. 

Most popular *nix installation destinations can easily be changed during
installation. If you are using command-line software, you should learn
enough about it to install it where it should live if the default
location isn't satisfactory.

> And that is one of MY problems is that I have to figure out what
> software needs updating because the version I have has file in those
> directories.

Answer: Anything that is not in /usr/local - how hard is that??

> My server remains at Snow Leopard

Snow Leopard is a horrible choice for a server open to the internet, for
very obvious reasons.

> I know that one wouldnt exist under SIP since I have updated
> middleware (PHP, MYSQL etc) including man pages.

Which specific *nix tools won't install into /usr/local?

-- 
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JR

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What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-02-28 04:26 -0500
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 04:31 -0500
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 03:24 -0700
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2017-02-28 04:29 -0600
    Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-02-28 10:37 +0000
      Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 05:39 -0500
    Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 05:36 -0700
      Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-02-28 10:10 -0500
        Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 13:02 -0500
          Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-28 20:01 +0000
            Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 04:55 -0500
              Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2017-03-01 13:55 +0100
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 09:15 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.at.list.dot.pl> - 2017-03-01 15:05 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 13:29 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 13:38 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 18:31 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-01 18:58 +0000
              Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-01 16:56 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 13:54 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 13:53 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 19:14 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:30 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:30 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 21:38 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1300
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 19:28 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 13:45 +1300
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:42 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:50 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 14:08 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 14:26 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 14:46 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 14:58 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 19:26 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:25 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 13:52 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 00:30 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:38 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:20 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:02 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2017-03-02 20:42 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:46 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:30 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:05 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 17:08 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:48 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:11 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 21:13 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 03:49 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 08:24 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:11 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:10 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 11:47 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 17:16 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:05 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:54 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 14:23 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:50 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:30 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:27 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 19:53 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:30 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 18:23 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2017-03-03 04:44 -0800
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:48 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:42 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:09 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 00:57 +0000
              Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 16:03 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-01 16:57 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 14:04 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:52 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-02 08:17 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 14:02 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:30 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:24 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 17:31 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:49 -0500
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:54 +0000
                Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:04 +0000
              Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 18:57 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:24 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-01 14:46 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:09 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:33 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:01 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:19 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2017-03-03 04:46 -0800
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 15:02 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-03 17:15 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 21:47 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:33 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:17 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 20:27 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:56 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 22:08 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 20:30 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 03:08 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-03 04:10 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-03 17:03 +1100
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 16:03 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 07:36 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 07:35 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 14:55 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 00:36 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:46 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 22:08 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 23:52 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 13:13 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-03 00:45 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 19:43 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-01 15:01 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 15:02 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 20:41 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:07 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 00:48 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:50 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-02 19:55 +1100
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 13:59 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:18 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 18:17 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 13:36 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 20:43 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:58 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 22:08 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 00:35 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:41 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 22:51 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 18:25 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-01 23:43 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:00 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:20 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 19:57 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 18:48 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:07 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 01:11 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 00:56 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 14:06 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 16:20 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:30 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-02 18:20 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 13:33 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-02 19:18 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-03-03 08:03 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 13:27 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 18:23 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard (was Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault?) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-03 18:29 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 13:04 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-02 15:50 +1100
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-03-01 21:00 -0800
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 21:47 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-03-02 20:00 +1100
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 00:38 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 21:47 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 13:19 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 20:39 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 15:22 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 22:08 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 07:40 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-03 13:21 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-03-03 21:06 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-04 01:27 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-02 04:28 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-02 23:29 +1300
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2017-03-02 19:06 +0000
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-02 14:26 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-03-02 16:54 -0500
                Re: Leaving Snow Leopard dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-03-03 12:04 +1300
            Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 17:13 -0500
              Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-02 01:20 +0000
        Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 11:19 -0700
    Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-02-28 10:08 -0500
      Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 13:02 -0500
        Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-02-28 11:21 -0700
          Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-02-28 14:06 -0500
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-02-28 10:40 +0000
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:24 -0500
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-02-28 15:51 +0000
    Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 05:00 -0500
      Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 18:36 +0000
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-02-28 18:51 -0500
    Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2017-02-28 17:24 -0800
      Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2017-03-01 05:02 -0500
        Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-03-01 18:36 +0000
      Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-03-01 07:52 -0500
        Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-03-01 11:00 -0500
  Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2017-02-28 19:31 -0500

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