Re: Device advice...

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Device advice...
Date	2016-09-02 10:33 +1000
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"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
>> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> Jeßus <j@j.invalid> wrote
>>
>> >>> - Can attach a small keyboard and mouse
>>
>> >> Mad requirement. Really only the Win and Linux based
>> >> tablets and laptops that do that with the mouse. But
>> >> they don't make normal cellular phone calls.
>>
>> >  Most Android tablets can use a mouse just fine.
>>
>> Bullshit on where to roll the mouse around on alone.
>
>  A flat surface? Duh!
>
>  He asks for a keyboard as well, remember!? Where do you think he puts
> *that*!?
>
>> > Whether a tablet is the way to go, is a different matter (see my
>> > other response), but wanting a mouse is not a showstopper.
>>
>> Yes it is.
>
>  Only for the clueless.
>
>> >>> - Make phone calls
>>
>> >> Presumably you mean normal cellular calls, not voip calls. That
>> >> excludes almost everything except smartphones and phablets.
>>
>> >  Given the right setup, it doesn't have to make much of a
>> > difference whether the user is using cellular calls or VOIP calls.
>>
>> It does if he isnt prepared to have a decent
>> data plan for when wifi isnt available.
>
>  It's even worse if he has no brain!
>
>> When the shit has hit the fan, the last thing you need is
>> to find that you can't make a call because the device has
>> no cellular call capability and there is no wifi available
>> and you don't have any data service usable for the call.
>>
>> In spades with incoming calls/SMSs that tell you
>> that your flight has been delayed or cancelled etc.
>
>  And your battery is empty, and you have the device back to front, and
> an elefant sat on it, and ...
>
>> > The user can call 'normal' - mobile and landline - phones and
>> > can have a 'normal' phone number on which others can call hir.
>>
>> Duh.
>
>  See!? If you really try, you *can* read for comprehension.
>
>> > So why would anybody care that - possibly
>> > - part of the connection is using VOIP?
>>
>> Because unless the device is cellular capable, you can easily
>> be up shit creek without a paddle when the shit hits the fan.

None of your usual shit above that you always end up with worth bothering 
with.

> There's mobile data,

Not for a viable price quite a bit of the time.

> so there's no rotating device, let alone excrements hitting it.

Wrong, as always.

>> Trivial to organise a SIM that ensures that that
>> can't happen with a device that is cellular capable.
>
>  Yes, that's why I said this:
>
>> >  But indeed for most users, a (extra?)
>> > smartphone is the logical choice.

But missed the point utterly on mobile data, as always.

>> IMO there isnt a lot of point in farting around with a laptop
>> as well as a high end smartphone or phablet anymore.

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  Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 15:51 +1000
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      Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 09:10 +1000
    Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-01 15:38 +0000
      Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 05:28 +1000
        Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-01 19:57 +0000
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            Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-02 18:50 +0000
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                Re: Device advice... news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-09-04 03:05 +0000
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                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 20:06 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-04 22:55 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 12:17 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-05 02:57 +0000
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                Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-05 19:09 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:35 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-05 23:07 +0000
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