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Re: Device advice...

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: Device advice...
Date 2016-09-01 19:57 +0000
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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Jeßus <j@j.invalid> wrote
> 
> >>> - Can attach a small keyboard and mouse
> 
> >> Mad requirement. Really only the Win and Linux based
> >> tablets and laptops that do that with the mouse. But
> >> they don't make normal cellular phone calls.
> 
> >  Most Android tablets can use a mouse just fine.
> 
> Bullshit on where to roll the mouse around on alone.

  A flat surface? Duh!

  He asks for a keyboard as well, remember!? Where do you think he puts
*that*!?

> > Whether a tablet is the way to go, is a different matter (see my
> > other response), but wanting a mouse is not a showstopper.
> 
> Yes it is.

  Only for the clueless.

> >>> - Make phone calls
> 
> >> Presumably you mean normal cellular calls, not voip calls. That
> >> excludes almost everything except smartphones and phablets.
> 
> >  Given the right setup, it doesn't have to make much of a
> > difference whether the user is using cellular calls or VOIP calls.
> 
> It does if he isnt prepared to have a decent
> data plan for when wifi isnt available.

  It's even worse if he has no brain!

> When the shit has hit the fan, the last thing you need is
> to find that you can't make a call because the device has
> no cellular call capability and there is no wifi available
> and you don't have any data service usable for the call.
>
> In spades with incoming calls/SMSs that tell you
> that your flight has been delayed or cancelled etc.

  And your battery is empty, and you have the device back to front, and
an elefant sat on it, and ...

> > The user can call 'normal' - mobile and landline - phones and
> > can have a 'normal' phone number on which others can call hir.
> 
> Duh.

  See!? If you really try, you *can* read for comprehension.

> > So why would anybody care that - possibly
> > - part of the connection is using VOIP?
> 
> Because unless the device is cellular capable, you can easily
> be up shit creek without a paddle when the shit hits the fan.

  There's mobile data, so there's no rotating device, let alone
excrements hitting it.

> Trivial to organise a SIM that ensures that that
> can't happen with a device that is cellular capable.

  Yes, that's why I said this:

> >  But indeed for most users, a (extra?)
> > smartphone is the logical choice.
> 
> IMO there isnt a lot of point in farting around with a laptop
> as well as a high end smartphone or phablet anymore. 

  Glad, finally the 'O' word! You're welcome to your 'O' as I am to
mine.

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  Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 15:51 +1000
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      Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 09:10 +1000
    Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-01 15:38 +0000
      Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 05:28 +1000
        Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-01 19:57 +0000
          Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 10:33 +1000
            Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-02 18:50 +0000
              Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 11:05 +1000
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          Re: Device advice... Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 13:05 +1000
            Re: Device advice... Jeßus <j@j.invalid> - 2016-09-07 08:53 +1000
          Re: Device advice... news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-09-03 03:06 +0000
            Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 15:29 +1000
              Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-04 01:23 +0000
                Re: Device advice... news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-09-04 03:05 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 20:13 +1000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-04 20:06 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-04 22:55 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 12:17 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-05 02:57 +0000
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                Re: Device advice... Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2016-09-05 09:35 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-09-05 21:19 +1000
                Re: Device advice... Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-05 19:09 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:35 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-05 23:07 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:19 +1000
                Re: Device advice... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-09-07 23:14 +0000
                Re: Device advice... "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:12 +1000
                Re: Device advice... F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:56 +1000
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