Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported)

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Subject	Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported)
Date	2016-08-25 20:05 +0100
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On 24/08/2016 10:49, Graham J wrote:
> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> I take your point that none of this is probably immediately obvious to a
>> new user, but it's all simple file management skills that IMO all Mac
>> users - not just MacSOUP users - should grasp. Life becomes a lot easier
>> in the long run, when one doesn't skip the basics.
>
> I don't think I've ever met a self-taught user who has achieved any of
> these simple file management skills that you talk of.  It doesn't matter
> whether the user is young or old, or uses a PC or a Mac - file
> management is non-obvious and has to be taught.
>

Coming from ZX80, 81, C=64, Amiga and the like since I was 7 years old, 
it was clear that storage devices contained data (tapes, disks, 
whatever) and there were programs which operated on that data.

I think the drive towards modern GUI systems and especially tablet 
devices is what's hiding that. These devices also have given many many 
more people exposure to sophisticated computer devices, which is also a 
good thing.

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[ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-21 17:51 +0200
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 15:58 +0000
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-21 16:47 +0000
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 16:58 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 05:03 +1200
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 17:25 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-21 17:06 +0000
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2016-08-21 21:10 +0100
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-23 02:01 +0000
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 02:25 +0000
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 08:39 +0100
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 09:05 +0000
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:06 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 16:00 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-23 10:35 -0600
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2016-08-23 17:39 +0100
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-23 10:59 +0100
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-23 12:22 +0000
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) David Kennedy <davidkennedy@nospamherethankyou.invalid> - 2016-08-25 01:54 +0100
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 05:33 +0200
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-24 15:47 +0000
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-24 18:04 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-24 17:37 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-24 19:32 +0200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-25 15:56 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 18:39 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 17:00 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 19:20 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 17:34 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 19:58 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 18:04 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-25 20:15 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-25 21:43 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-25 21:16 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 04:14 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 03:14 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 05:21 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 04:36 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 06:50 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 05:38 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 07:46 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-26 20:13 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 10:20 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-26 20:48 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-26 11:14 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-27 02:08 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-26 18:06 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 08:27 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-28 17:37 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 19:45 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Chris Ridd <chrisridd@mac.com> - 2016-08-28 19:12 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-08-29 17:39 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) black.hole@jonbradbury.com (Jon B) - 2016-08-29 18:50 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-08-30 05:26 -0400
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-30 22:10 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-30 13:22 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-28 20:04 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) android <here@there.was> - 2016-08-28 20:14 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-29 12:49 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Julian Gomez <jeg@polished-pixels.com> - 2016-09-01 23:44 -0700
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-22 18:41 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-22 17:11 +0000
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 04:40 +1200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) js@xs4all.nl (Jeroen Scheerder) - 2016-08-21 19:14 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-22 13:08 +1200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:06 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) - 2016-08-21 21:54 +0100
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-08-22 09:21 +1200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:18 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-23 12:24 +1200
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) "James C. Andrew" <jim@magrathea.plus.com> - 2016-08-22 09:14 +0100
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nemo@erewhon.invalid (John Hill) - 2016-08-22 09:17 +0100
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-23 11:40 +0100
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) macker@nospam.invalid (Macker) - 2016-08-22 11:44 -0300
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) g.harper@gmx.line (Gwynne Harper) - 2016-08-22 19:44 +0300
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (Anders Eklöf) - 2016-08-22 23:49 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-23 12:04 +0200
  Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 13:15 +0200
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) info@that.sundog.co.uk (SM) - 2016-08-23 12:37 +0100
    Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-08-23 14:19 +0200
      Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-23 23:02 +0200
        Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-23 17:06 -0600
          Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-24 10:46 +0200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-24 21:13 +1200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Graham J <graham@invalid.com> - 2016-08-24 10:49 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-24 22:08 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) HarpingOn <postmaster@127.0.0.1> - 2016-08-25 20:05 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jeremy <jeremy0505@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 16:29 +0100
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-27 07:32 +1200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-26 19:58 +0000
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2016-08-27 20:25 +0300
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-28 07:22 +1200
              Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2016-08-24 13:05 +0200
                Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-08-25 00:49 +1200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-24 11:40 +0200
            Re: [ANN] MacSOUP is now free (and unsupported) nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-08-24 19:18 -0600
  [ANN] French MacSOUP Jean-Pierre Kuypers <Kuypers@address.invalid> - 2016-08-29 18:41 +0200

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