Re: More NBN questions

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: More NBN questions
Date	2016-08-09 15:00 +1000
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:57a71186$0$22839$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:57a69b7e$0$27120$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:57a68fe1$0$33695$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:57a5dd66$0$55337$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:57a450f1$0$40903$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:37:47 +1000, F Murtz 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news16 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:07:51 +1000, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are real life speeds that people are getting on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25-5 ?as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never believe the providers glowing predictions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ADSL 2+ runs at the high speeds of 2.something Mbps What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speeds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should I expect from the up to 12 option?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Will probably have FTTN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you still have the same cruddy copper that you always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an updated version of frogs pissing problems. Good luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> except that it will only be a couple of hundred yards with one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections instead of five kilometres of twists and turns 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections just to the exchange to go wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I went with the 25 download and 5 upload and get it
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/SeedTestTelstra2.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> before the speed was same as yours
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/speedtestTelstra.png
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I saw the blokes pouring the NBN node slab next to an NBN pit
>>>>>>>>>>> today
>>>>>>>>>>> 300 metres from my place (don't know if the copper has to go
>>>>>>>>>>> the 50
>>>>>>>>>>> metres further away to the nearest pillar and then to my place 
>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>>>> All that remains is for me to decide whether 12-1 0r 25-5
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently my
>>>>>>>>>>> bundle is $80.00 for bad  ADSL2+ 200 gb with all calls timed 
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Bigpong,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Makes a lot more sense to go with dodo unlimited. $60 with home
>>>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>>>> included.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so I should be able to get unlimited with phone for something
>>>>>>>>>>> similar,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Much cheaper in fact.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> or less without phone, just have to work out whether to go for
>>>>>>>>>>> cheaper
>>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd personally go for 25-5 because I do find the 700K upload
>>>>>>>>>> painfully
>>>>>>>>>> slow at times.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dodo wont tell me anything except their lowest without filling in 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> questionnaire
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's not right.
>>>>>>>> http://www.dodo.com/internet/quick-links/nbn-plans/?_ga=1.59616877.1146094408.1396548720
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so I have no idea what their plans are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You do now. Unlimited for $60, $70. You wont be able to get 100/40
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> FTTN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, could not find that URL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, the UI is a bit counter intuitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems much of a muchness with TPG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But a mate of mine who went with TPG had a hell of a problem
>>>>>> getting his phone service moved over to the FTTP service, took weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but seems I have to pay for modem with dodo but not TPG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The TPG modem is a steaming turd. Can't deliver
>>>>>> anything like the thruput that the modem gets over
>>>>>> the wifi. I wouldn't want their free modem myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on 18 months $80.00 TPG deal per month seems better than dodo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No its not. The dodo deal is either $60 or $70 for unlimited
>>>>>> at the two speeds of 12/1 and 24/5 respectively. Cheaper
>>>>>> if you don't need unlimited.
>>>>>
>>>>> plus $10for phone,
>>>>
>>>> Nope. That's the price including the line rent.
>>>
>>> It seems that the phone deal is better at TPG (100 min international
>>> extra)
>>
>> Nope, the mynetphone/whirlpool offer is better.
>>
>>> and free modem,
>>
>> It's a steaming turd of a modem.
>>
>>> if you take the $100.00 for modem over the year
>>
>> A decent modem lasts a lot longer than that.
>>
>>> it brings dodo almost to the same cost
>>> (for that year)without the 100 minutes international
>>
>> You do better than that with the mynetfone/whirlpool offer.
>>
>>> Always supposing you want phone. TPGs modem is now N300 NF12
>>
>> It's a steaming turd, the wifi can't do what the NBN service can do.
>>
>>> but I can not find reviews,(used to be NF7 don't know what the
>>> difference is)
>>
>>> I suppose if the modem is no good I could go with dodo and pay the
>>> same aprox as TPG (without the 100 minutes)
>>
>> You get better than the 100 mins with the mynetfone/whirlpool offer.
>>
>>> or forget phone altogether and use my optus cell ($30.00 per month 300
>>> minutes and 2Gb)
>>
>> I use the amaysim pay as you go and rarely spend $10 a
>> month even tho I use it a lot for calls and data during the
>> garage sale run that we coordinate over the phone now.
>>
>>> All this worrying,still have time for plenty more worrying (they have
>>> only just poured the node box base).
>>
>> Which reminds me, they have been doing some digging
>> 150' away from my place with what looks like a telstra
>> metal frame thing around the hole. Must go and see if
>> I can work out what they are doing and see if I can find
>> anyone doing any work and ask them what they are up
>> to. We are sposed to be getting FTTN here this year.
>
> That is what I have been doing, When I saw a ute and concrete truck pull 
> up I asked them if they were doing anything for NBN, that is how I found 
> out where the node was going.

I managed to keep forgetting to go out and ask them after I had noted
the activity there on the weekend with no people there. When a mate of
mine showed up to borrow my car ramps and we were discussing it over
a beer, he mentioned that they were still there clearing up on the next
corner over on the very short 2 house block street that joins the to much
longer ones. But when he had left and I went over to ask them, they had
gone. That one furthest away does now have what must be a new pit
with a couple of quite big covers over it, no poured concrete visible.
One of the big covers, must be about 4'x2' each, has TPG cast into
the top surface of the cover which surprised me. The other one doesn't
have any obvious logo, but still has some stuff cast into the cover.

The other one on the corner that is on my street about 150' from my
block has a much smaller pit, about the size of the normal pits that
at the boundary line of most houses, but this one is actually well
out on the corner nature strip itself, unusually. This one does have
NBN cast into the cover. No poured concrete visible there either.

The pillar is much further away, 250 meters away and nothing
close to that, maybe that goes in later or something.

Must have a drive around next time I am out and see if I can
find them actually doing more work locally and ask them.

>>>>> dont know if tpg will take $10 off if you remove phone from the
>>>>> included deal
>>>>
>>>> No they wont, theirs is built in voip.
>>>>
>>>>> that would make it the same
>>>>
>>>> Nope, and you are stuck with TPGs fucked 'support'
>>>>
>>>>>> Its mad to be including any phone calls, makes much
>>>>>> more sense to use mynetfone/whirlpool voip and pay
>>>>>> just 10c for all calls to landlines untimed instead. That
>>>>>> gives you 1000 calls a month, there is no monthly charge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and TPG is the only provider that I can go and yell at at their
>>>>>>> headquarters face to face at Ryde.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was no use for the mate of mine and he is in Sydney.
>>>>>
>>>
>

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