Re: More NBN questions

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: More NBN questions
Date	2016-08-08 07:41 +1000
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:57a69b7e$0$27120$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:57a68fe1$0$33695$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:57a5dd66$0$55337$b1db1813$e2fc9064@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:57a450f1$0$40903$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:37:47 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> news16 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:07:51 +1000, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are real life speeds that people are getting on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlimited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 25-5 ?as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never believe the providers glowing predictions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ADSL 2+ runs at the high speeds of 2.something Mbps What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speeds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should I expect from the up to 12 option?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Will probably have FTTN
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you still have the same cruddy copper that you always
>>>>>>>>>>>> had and
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>> an updated version of frogs pissing problems. Good luck.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> except that it will only be a couple of hundred yards with one
>>>>>>>>>>> or two
>>>>>>>>>>> connections instead of five kilometres of twists and turns with
>>>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>> connections just to the exchange to go wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I went with the 25 download and 5 upload and get it
>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/SeedTestTelstra2.png
>>>>>>>>>> before the speed was same as yours
>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50667687/speedtestTelstra.png
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I saw the blokes pouring the NBN node slab next to an NBN pit 
>>>>>>>>> today
>>>>>>>>> 300 metres from my place (don't know if the copper has to go the 
>>>>>>>>> 50
>>>>>>>>> metres further away to the nearest pillar and then to my place or
>>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>>> All that remains is for me to decide whether 12-1 0r 25-5
>>>>>>>>> Currently my
>>>>>>>>> bundle is $80.00 for bad  ADSL2+ 200 gb with all calls timed from
>>>>>>>>> Bigpong,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Makes a lot more sense to go with dodo unlimited. $60 with home
>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>> included.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so I should be able to get unlimited with phone for something
>>>>>>>>> similar,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Much cheaper in fact.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or less without phone, just have to work out whether to go for
>>>>>>>>> cheaper
>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd personally go for 25-5 because I do find the 700K upload
>>>>>>>> painfully
>>>>>>>> slow at times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dodo wont tell me anything except their lowest without filling in a
>>>>>>> questionnaire
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not right.
>>>>>> http://www.dodo.com/internet/quick-links/nbn-plans/?_ga=1.59616877.1146094408.1396548720
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so I have no idea what their plans are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do now. Unlimited for $60, $70. You wont be able to get 100/40
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> FTTN.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, could not find that URL
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, the UI is a bit counter intuitive.
>>>>
>>>>> It seems much of a muchness with TPG
>>>>
>>>> But a mate of mine who went with TPG had a hell of a problem
>>>> getting his phone service moved over to the FTTP service, took weeks.
>>>>
>>>>> but seems I have to pay for modem with dodo but not TPG
>>>>
>>>> The TPG modem is a steaming turd. Can't deliver
>>>> anything like the thruput that the modem gets over
>>>> the wifi. I wouldn't want their free modem myself.
>>>>
>>>>> on 18 months $80.00 TPG deal per month seems better than dodo
>>>>
>>>> No its not. The dodo deal is either $60 or $70 for unlimited
>>>> at the two speeds of 12/1 and 24/5 respectively. Cheaper
>>>> if you don't need unlimited.
>>>
>>> plus $10for phone,
>>
>> Nope. That's the price including the line rent.
>
> It seems that the phone deal is better at TPG (100 min international 
> extra)

Nope, the mynetphone/whirlpool offer is better.

> and free modem,

It's a steaming turd of a modem.

> if you take the $100.00 for modem over the year

A decent modem lasts a lot longer than that.

> it brings dodo almost to the same cost
> (for that year)without the 100 minutes international

You do better than that with the mynetfone/whirlpool offer.

> Always supposing you want phone. TPGs modem is now N300 NF12

It's a steaming turd, the wifi can't do what the NBN service can do.

> but I can not find reviews,(used to be NF7 don't know what the difference 
> is)

> I suppose if the modem is no good I could go with dodo and pay the same 
> aprox as TPG (without the 100 minutes)

You get better than the 100 mins with the mynetfone/whirlpool offer.

> or forget phone altogether and use my optus cell ($30.00 per month 300 
> minutes and 2Gb)

I use the amaysim pay as you go and rarely spend $10 a
month even tho I use it a lot for calls and data during the
garage sale run that we coordinate over the phone now.

> All this worrying,still have time for plenty more worrying (they have only 
> just poured the node box base).

Which reminds me, they have been doing some digging
150' away from my place with what looks like a telstra
metal frame thing around the hole. Must go and see if
I can work out what they are doing and see if I can find
anyone doing any work and ask them what they are up
to. We are sposed to be getting FTTN here this year.

>>> dont know if tpg will take $10 off if you remove phone from the
>>> included deal
>>
>> No they wont, theirs is built in voip.
>>
>>> that would make it the same
>>
>> Nope, and you are stuck with TPGs fucked 'support'
>>
>>>> Its mad to be including any phone calls, makes much
>>>> more sense to use mynetfone/whirlpool voip and pay
>>>> just 10c for all calls to landlines untimed instead. That
>>>> gives you 1000 calls a month, there is no monthly charge.
>>>>
>>>>> and TPG is the only provider that I can go and yell at at their
>>>>> headquarters face to face at Ryde.
>>>>
>>>> That was no use for the mate of mine and he is in Sydney.
>>>
>

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