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| From | "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 |
| Date | 2015-08-29 22:52 +1000 |
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"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
news:poj8bc-tht.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <d4cvgdFkm1vU1@mid.individual.net>, hqhy <hqhy@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:75bf3818-824e-43bc-ae47-4865857addea@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 9:32:44 PM UTC-6, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>
>>>> The USA has also been responsible (sometimes by military force,
>>>> sometimes indirectly, see Iran, Dominican Republic, Chile, Indonesia,
>>>> et al.) for the sometimes bloody overthrow of democratically elected
>>>> governments. And for the support and buttressing of anti-democratic
>>>> regimes (Saudi Arabia, Franco post WW2, the Argentine generals, et
>>>> al.). It's hard to count that as a plus for "world freedom".
>>
>>> Well, in the case of World War II and the Cold War, it was pretty
>>> clear that what the U.S. was keeping at bay would have indeed
>>> been a disaster for political freedom and human rights.
>>
>>For quite a bit of europe, sure. But not for Britain, Adolf actually
>>expected
>>the British to just agree to disagree and just have a ceasefire.
>>
>>> The history of these two conflicts, as I've noted
>>> elsewhere, was very different, though.
>>
>>Yes, WW1 wasn't about political freedom at all.
>>
>>> That Nazism was the ultimate evil is pretty broadly
>>> accepted. Soviet Communism was just about as bad
>>> - and by some measures worse - but...
>>
>>And the Japanese in spades in areas they occupied.
>>
>>The allies just handed the bulk of eastern europe over
>>to Stalin so its hard to claim that the US produced any
>>real political freedom for them. Tho you can certainly
>>make a case that the cold war did cause the communist
>>system to implode earlier than it would otherwise have
>>done and so got their jackboot of the throats of those
>>in eastern europe earlier than it would otherwise have.
>
> By the time the Jalta conference happend there
> was really no choice for the western powers.
Yes, but they did that because they were not capable of
winning against Germany without the Soviet military system.
> The Soviet forces outnumbered
> the western ones by 3:1 on the European continent, and
> they were advancing rapidly westwards. Poland, the Baltics,
> and most of sotheastern Europe was already occupied
> by the Soviets.
But because of the military assistance the Soviets had got before that.
> It was either the Yalta agreement, or another world war.
There was never any possibility of another world war.
>>But was directly involved in getting rid of quite a few
>>democratically elected governments in south and
>>central america particularly.
>
> Lets look closely.
>
> Greece : Yes, minor cooperation from the US, but it was
> pretty short lived.
> Spain: Franco was a holdout from the 30s, and never got
> much US support, was not a member of NATO before the regime
> democratised itself.
> Portugal: Holdout from the 20s, slowly pluralising after
> WW2. Was a dependablue ally during WW2, and therefore got
> the benefit of the doubt.
> Turkey: Created by Mustafa Kemal ("Ataturk") as a mild
> autocracy but planned as a democracy. Didn't work out
> quite, had spits of democracy that descended into chaos
> followed by military rule repeadtedly. Was the southern
> front to the USSR and the Middle East, and got a great
> set of excuses because of that. There was never any letup
> in the US push towards democracy and pluralism there,
> however.
>
> This concludes the list of the non-democracies in the US
> alliances in Southern Europe 1945-1990.
> Now let us look at the rest of the world:
> Cuba. Half-hearded support for Batista,
Lot more than half hearted in fact.
> a semi-fascist, bacfired badly
> and made a communist coup possible.
> Nicaragua: Ditto, although the support for Somoza was a little
> clearer, and the communists had a lot more pluralist instincts.
> Chile: Pinochet was clearly a lot worse than the US expected.
> They only gave very half-hearted support to them, which also
> backfired in a lot less US influence. Nixon: He is a crook,
> but he is OUR crook.
> Argentina: The generals did this much by themselves. They
> were as anti-US as the centre socialists.
> Panama: The US actually eneded by invading to get rid of
> the generals.
> Grenada: Ditto. Operatic war.
> The rest of South America: A hodgepodge of usually quite
> left-wing democracies and proto-fascist dictators, where both
> had varying degrees of US support. The US support was
> instrumental to keep the democracies in Costa Rica, Columbia,
> Uruguay, Paraguay and several of the micronations.
It was much more involved with putting in place who
the US wanted than with supporting real democracy.
> A mixed record, but not an entirely black one either.
> Pinochet and Lopez (Guatemala) were the real blemishes.
>
> The rest of the world:
>
> Iran: The coup against Mossadeq was a British-led operation
> with the US in the front seat, but not primarily calling the
> shots. The brits bungled it badly.
That mangles the real story.
> Indonesia: Domino theories during the height of the Vietnam
> war, when Soekarno (president, independent but quite left-leaning)
> didn't stop the local communists getting large arms shipments
> from China the US and the Indonesian military simply panicked.
> Coup and massacre of everyone slightly red followed.
The US had no real involvement there, or in Malaya and Borneo either.
> The US disn't call many shots there afterwords,
Didn’t call any in fact.
> Indoesia continued in the non-aligned camp with fervor.
And disposed of their communists entirely unaided,
just by killing them all and lots more besides.
> Viet Nam, Taiwan, (South) Korea; the local politics brought
> forward a strong dictator. In a war, you don't rock the boat
> more than what you have to.
They did in fact do a hell of a lot more than that in Vietnam.
> Philippines: Marcos was elected, sort of. The whole system
> was mired in corruption, still is. Anyone capable of fixing
> this is welcome to step forward.
That is one area where the US did act very honourably.
When the Philippines told them to leave, they did just that.
But they didn’t with Okinawa.
>>> While American businessmen were slow in recognizing
>>> Nazism for what it was, they were quick to condemn not
>>> only Communism, but also any moderate movements
>>> aimed at promoting the lot of the working man - trade
>>> unions, democratic socialism, and so on and so forth.
> Remember, Hitler tried very hard to conceal the nature
> of the regime, internally until the racial laws came towards
> the end of 1935, and externally until the Kristallnacht in 1938.
And with what he planned militarily in spades.
> Seeing him as Just Another Dictator until then is pretty
> forgiveable.
Particularly when he got the German economy going
very effectively indeed using precisely the same approach
that FDR used in the US, massive deficit spending on
infrastructure projects.
>>And rightly so with the unions IMO.
>>
>>> So their motives were highly suspect
>>
>>More just misguided. Communism was never
>>going to be a problem in a place like America
>>or Canada, whatever fools like Nixon claimed.
> No, not post WW2. But in the Great Depression a continuance
> of the pre-FDR policies would have led to a revolution.
No it would not have. The great democracies don’t operate like
that. They give the bums the bums rush at the ballot box instead.
>>> - and thus many people understandably forgot
>>> that even a stopped clock is sometimes right.
>>
>>That's too superficial.
>>
>>> So McCarthyism and a bunch of other people
>>> created serious divisions in the war against
>>> Communist totalitarianism, unfortunately.
>>
>>There was never any war against communism
>>within America or Canada or any of the great
>>democracies either.
>
> Greece, 1945-48, Finland 1917-1922, Korea 1950-54,
> Czechoslovakia 1948
None of those were anything even remotely like one
of the great democracies. Neither was Germany.
> They are all great democracies now.
No they aren't. They are very new to democracy
and it doesn’t take much to see a full civil war
or a military coup which is nothing even
remotely like a great democracy.
> (half of Korea)
Even Japan is nothing even remotely like a great
democracy when the same party has ruled the
roost for almost all the time since they lost the war.
Taiwan has only recently got anything like a real democracy.
Singapore has never had anything like one.
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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 15:47 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-28 11:53 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:37 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-28 21:37 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-28 17:21 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:14 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-28 22:02 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:18 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-29 23:24 +0200
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-30 14:58 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 05:44 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-28 11:02 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-28 09:30 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:24 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-30 20:20 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-31 13:48 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-30 23:41 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-31 15:10 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-31 08:05 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-31 13:50 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 09:48 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-31 16:07 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 13:44 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-01 05:15 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 09:30 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 13:48 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-01 05:04 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 14:48 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-31 11:34 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 13:12 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-31 21:27 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-01 05:26 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-31 21:21 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-31 11:13 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-01 04:55 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 22:40 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-01 15:11 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-01 18:46 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-01 17:15 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 10:25 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-04 15:22 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-05 01:41 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-05 17:04 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-05 13:04 +0000
Re: a long poisonous way from 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-09-05 14:46 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-05 12:35 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-05 15:58 -0300
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-08 07:52 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-08 18:42 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-09 13:41 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-09 11:54 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-08 07:32 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-02 12:36 +0200
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-01 17:10 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 09:53 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-01 04:15 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:21 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-01 23:45 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-02 14:49 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-02 12:42 +0200
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-02 09:25 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-02 15:43 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-02 11:37 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 09:59 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-02 13:33 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-02 16:28 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 13:52 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-02 18:22 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-03 00:29 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-03 11:17 +0200
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:59 +0200
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-03 14:18 -0300
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-03 11:35 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-04 08:44 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-04 15:03 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-08 13:46 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-02 18:20 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-03 20:01 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-03 16:15 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-04 08:46 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-04 15:07 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-04 17:58 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-04 15:15 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-04 19:39 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-04 23:38 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-03 13:18 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-03 14:43 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-03 16:39 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-03 18:29 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-03 14:07 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-04 04:33 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-03 05:31 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-02 15:25 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-02 20:33 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-02 17:19 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-09-03 14:55 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-03 08:24 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 17:17 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-03 01:12 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-02 19:36 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 07:46 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 07:44 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-03 06:16 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 10:29 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:16 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-28 12:10 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-28 09:35 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-08-28 12:00 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-28 14:14 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:46 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:29 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 15:35 -0500
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 09:09 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:20 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-29 11:16 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 20:50 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-29 10:19 -0400
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-29 15:56 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 05:07 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 07:23 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-30 15:47 +0100
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 16:02 +0000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-08-30 10:28 -0700
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-31 06:47 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-31 06:21 +1000
Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-27 08:12 +1000
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