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| From | Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: Why Python 3? |
| Date | 2014-04-22 18:03 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <brmf1mFdlg9U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Chris Angelico wrote: > As it > is, we have the case that most lowish integers have equivalent floats > (all integers within the range that most people use them), and beyond > that, you have problems. No, I don't. I'm not talking about representing ints using floats, I'm talking about representing floats using ints. *Every* possible integer-valued float value can be written exactly as a Python int. It doesn't matter that there are some ints that can't be represented as floats, because when I'm writing an int literal as a shorthand for a float, I'm not going to be using any of those values -- or if I do, I'm willing to accept the resulting loss of precision, because in my mind they're *not* ints, they're floats. > But > would you rather have to deal with the problem straight away, or when > your program is some day given a much bigger number to swallow, and it > quietly rounds it off to the nearest multiple of 8? I don't understand what problem you're imagining here. Any program that needs to do exact calculations with integer values should work with ints throughout and use // or divmod() if it needs to do any division. Nothing will get unexpectedly rounded off then. -- Greg
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