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Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, J.O. Aho wrote:

> On 06/01/17 21:42, Holger Marzen wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" nach comp.mail.pine gesetzt.]
>> * On Tue, 30 May 2017 15:49:36 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2017-05-30, Christophe Prevotaux 
>>> <cdotprevotaux@nospamdotruraldashnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 18:46:15 +0100, Juancho shaped the electrons to say:
>>>> 
>>>>> Tristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi) wrote:
>>>>>> So, I was not born in the Usenet era and honestly would have like to
>>>>>> had what they had - a standard protocol for communication. This exists
>>>>>> today but guess what has happened to it, SPAM, SPAM and more SPAM.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I want an NNTP network and I know many others do as well, I surely
>>>>>> cannot be alone in a quest for a protocol which allows discussions on
>>>>>>   topics with any client you want to use. Therefore I want to create a
>>>>>> new Usenet, in this proposal I shall refer to it as Usenet-Next as it
>>>>>> needs a name that people can use to relate to this proposal.
>>> 
>>> Sure. Charge $10 for each message read. That would get rid of spam.
>>> 
>>> And how will you determine if a particular message is spam?
>> 
>> Is spam really a problem? I think the shrinking number of users and
>> servers might be a problem but the spam problem in Usenet is over. No
>> spammer cares about Usenet anymore.
>> 
>
> Not as much as in the old days, before they started to filter the content in 
> newsgroups, but still from time to time you see some, mainly when someone 
> replies to the spam.
> Then there is the problem with some jerks who decides to include irrelevant 
> groups in the middle of a thread, just google on "Good Guy" and you will see 
> a really annoying ms-windows-troll polluting the net like Trump will do with 
> the world.
> I do not think those spammers would be easy to exclude in an alternative 
> system, it may look trivial, but they do adapt.
>
I've apparently always had good news servers, because since 1996 I've 
never seen as much spam in the newsgroups as some suggest.  I suppose 
another way of seeing it is that maybe some perceive the spam in 
newsgroups as being greater than it is, their tolerance lower.   But 
google gets it, so yes, people who view usenet through google are often 
the ones complaining about spam these days.

But, I thought a real issue with spam was harvesting of email addreses, to 
use to send spam via email.  Even that doesn't seem as bad as it once was, 
though maybe that too gets well filtered.

I can't remember what year, but there was one deluge, I think it was the 
fall, where if I didn't clear out my inbox every few hours, it would be 
swamped.  It was one wave of spam, really an attack, carrying something 
fairly large, but I've never seen something so relentless.  It was clearly 
using email addresses taken from newsgroups, and then after a short 
period, it stopped.

   Michael

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Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam "Tristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)" <deavmi@disroot.org> - 2016-11-20 18:45 +0200
  Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2016-11-21 11:45 +0000
    Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Dennis Davis <dennisdavis@fastmail.fm> - 2016-11-22 07:53 +0000
    Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-11-23 01:15 -0500
  Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Juancho <juancho@notarealaddress.org> - 2017-02-12 18:46 +0100
    Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Christophe Prevotaux <cdotprevotaux@nospamdotruraldashnetworks.com> - 2017-05-30 13:58 +0000
      Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-05-30 15:49 +0000
        Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Christophe Prevotaux <cdotprevotaux@nospamdotruraldashnetworks.com> - 2017-05-31 13:49 +0000
        Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2017-06-01 19:42 +0000
          Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-02 07:10 +0200
            Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-06-05 13:30 -0400
              Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-05 21:22 +0200

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