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Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam

From Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com>
Newsgroups comp.mail.pine, comp.mail.uucp
Subject Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam
Date 2016-11-21 11:45 +0000
Organization Ripco Communications Inc.
Message-ID <o0ump9$hes$1@remote5bge0.ripco.com> (permalink)
References <o0sjtg$be4$1@dont-email.me>

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In comp.mail.uucp "Tristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)" <deavmi@disroot.org> wrote:

> I want an NNTP network and I know many others do as well, I surely 
> cannot be alone in a quest for a protocol which allows discussions on 
> topics with any client you want to use. Therefore I want to create a new 
> Usenet, in this proposal I shall refer to it as Usenet-Next as it needs 
> a name that people can use to relate to this proposal.

Assuming you aren't a bored troll, you are beating a dead horse.

Usenet is no where as popular as it once was these days, and your complaints
about spam are easily fixed by running your own news server and applying the
filters to do the job you want.

Creating your "new usenet" isn't going to attract new users, it's been tried
before (Usenet II i think it was called) and didn't go anywhere either, as
far as I know. And that was back in the popular days where text posts
(non-binaries) exceeded a quarter million a day.

These days where it's barely a tenth of that, just proves non-use. Few
people are interested in it, preferring to use Twitter, Facebook or any of
the other dozens of social media services.

Plus you are missing the obvious, part of the problem is lack of news
readers that work well (or work at all) on phones and tablets. They exist on
both ios and android but none of them are as good as the worse unix command
line ones. Many people are leaving the desktop/laptop world and just using
what they can carry around in their pocket.

Even if you came up with a whiz-bang app for phones and tablets, usenet is
too difficult to get going. Besides signing up for a news server, group
selection is a mess, threading and message selection varies with taste.

It's something you have to get used to and learn. People want to get
spoonfed these days.

Look at what kind of mess google did with groups.google.com, and they were
google. I dunno how the missed the point or what they were thinking but
that whole system is just an embarassment. 

Good luck but I don't need a crystal ball to see this idea of yours going
nowhere.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam "Tristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)" <deavmi@disroot.org> - 2016-11-20 18:45 +0200
  Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2016-11-21 11:45 +0000
    Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Dennis Davis <dennisdavis@fastmail.fm> - 2016-11-22 07:53 +0000
    Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-11-23 01:15 -0500
  Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Juancho <juancho@notarealaddress.org> - 2017-02-12 18:46 +0100
    Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Christophe Prevotaux <cdotprevotaux@nospamdotruraldashnetworks.com> - 2017-05-30 13:58 +0000
      Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2017-05-30 15:49 +0000
        Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Christophe Prevotaux <cdotprevotaux@nospamdotruraldashnetworks.com> - 2017-05-31 13:49 +0000
        Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2017-06-01 19:42 +0000
          Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-02 07:10 +0200
            Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-06-05 13:30 -0400
              Re: Usenet-Next - A proposal to create a very strict NNTP network with no spam "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2017-06-05 21:22 +0200

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