Re: [CM] What was your first home computer?

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: [CM] What was your first home computer?
Date	2017-04-19 19:59 -0400
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, JimP. wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:34:21 -0000 (UTC), Jason Howe
> <jason@tatooine.smbfc.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 23:40:29 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>> ...But the speed and greater memory just seemed to be used up with
>>> the GUI operating system, like I'd moved forward and then back two steps.
>>> The Atari had more built in hardware (of a more universal kind) and seemed
>>> snappy enough.
>>>
>> I jumped right from an Atari 8-bit to a 68k Mac about at about the same
>> time.  I too felt that I had whole lot of computer in front of me that
>> was really busy drawing pictures for me.  My Mac turned out to be all
>> sorts of flaky and pretty much swore me off Apple products for 15 years.
>>
>>> I was even lucky, at a local amateur radio flearmarket, I bought bunch of
>>> Atari ST boards that were in various shape, so I did have spare parts, but
>>> I just never got my Atari ST going reliably.
>>>
>>> ALmost thirty years later, it was such a different time.  Now, so much
>>> better hardware is out there on the used market, and if anything breaks
>>> down, it's easy and cheap to find a replacement.  Circa 1989, the computer
>>> world was bigger than the hobbyist world, but not by that much.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>
>> So yeah, my first was a hand-me-down Atari 800 from my Dad.  This was c.
>> 1986, I was about 6 years old.  Dad never really did anything with the
>> 800 and I didn't see him touch a computer again until the Windows 95
>> era.  C. 1993 when the family got a new Mac, I never really took to it.
>> Neither did Mom (She used to program Wang and IBM minis before kids).  She never
>> felt it was a "real" computer.  Typing this now, I remember when I was
>> about 8 or 9, Mom helped me learn how to program on the Atari in
>> BASIC...that's an awesome memory that just came back :)
>>
>> Anyway, I don't still have that original Atari 800 (I lost it to water
>> damage in the late 90's), but was able to pick up another one a few
>> years ago, and am actually typing this response on it now, using it as a
>> terminal to my linux box.  I do still have my original 810 disk drive,
>> though it is awaiting repairs.
>
> Speaking of theAtari 400 and Atari 800, I was reading a computer
> magazine article back in the 1980s about them. The Atari company
> decided to save some money and didn't put the little springs in the
> chip holders. These springs kept the chip in its inline socket so that
> heating and cooling didn't lift the chips out of their sockets.
>
> The official fix ? Drop the computer a short distance onto a rugged
> surface like a table.

Those Ataris had that problem?  I know the Apple III had the problem, and 
the same fix was suggested.

YOu get the choice, unreliable sockets, or having to unsolder before you 
can try a new IC.  I'm not sure which is worse.

   Michael

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