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Re: [CM] What was your first home computer?

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On 4/20/2017 5:47 AM, Ian McCall wrote:
> On 2017-04-18 19:46:46 +0000, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> said:
>
>> I bought an Atari 520ST. A big disappointment. You couldn't do anything
>> with it. It came with the lamest imaginable Basic interpreter and a Logo
>> turtle. I joined a local Atari club, but nobody was interested in
>> programming so I quit.
>
> Wow - very, very different experiences. Same machine almost (Atari 
> 520STFM).
>
> My own home computing journey has gone: Spectrum -> C64 -> ST -> Mac 
> LC -> various PCs, some interesting, some not -> 12" Powerbook -> 
> various Macs -> various Macs plus a gaming PC.
>
> The ST I had was -fantastic-. There's the games, which were good 
> (although the sound was a massive disappointment after the C64). But 
> further than that it was the first time I really got into useful 
> productive software.
>
> 1st Word Plus, the incredible Signum. Timeworks. Then there were the 
> MIDI ports, so I got into writing music with Steinberg Pro 12 and a 
> couple of MIDI keyboards. Emulators - it could run Mac software faster 
> than a Mac Plus and with bigger screen space on the utterly gorgeous 
> SM124 paper white monitor. I also had a Vortex 286 fitted, meaning I 
> could run DOS and code in Turbo Pascal etc..  GST C, for £20, is how I 
> taught myself C as well.
>
> We had very different experiences - the ST was one of the most 
> productive machines I've ever owned.
>
>
>
>
The 1040ST was the most satisfying computer I ever worked with.  An 
instruction set that didn't look like it came out of a science fair 
project, a superb monitor, lot's of incredibly imaginative software.  If 
you weren't happy with what was happening, you could disconnect the hard 
drive and limit the damage.  My hard drive was terribly loud, I fixed 
that with a resistor to slow it down. I quit using the ST to check out 
this "object-oriented" language thing - a much over-hyped idea, and I 
never got back to the ST.  For some reason I focus on the wonderful 
Tempus text editor this morning.

But I agree with the OP, the packed in Basic was a truly awful thing and 
524K bytes had to be a PITA.

I didn't like the "slanted" function keys, I thought they would look 
very dated in a few years. I think that was my biggest gripe.  And, of 
course, the documentation could have been improved.

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