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Re: Damned Windows Bloat

From	Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Damned Windows Bloat
Date	2016-09-15 20:20 -0400
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, The Real Bev wrote:

> On 09/15/2016 11:45 AM, polygonum wrote:
>> On 15/09/2016 11:38, Kerr Mudd-John wrote:
>>> Oh. 8*G*b. Lord, who'd ever need more than 640k?
>
> And the worldwide market for computers was what, less than a dozen?
>
>>> Disclosure: This device has 1Gb RAM, Bios Date 2005.
>> 
>> Partner's computer has 24 GB...
>
> Pshaw.  MY hubby's new computer has 64 GB!
>
> He finally decided that the proper thing to do was fully populate the 
> motherboard when you build it -- the memory will never be cheaper (unless you 
> get lucky at a yard sale) and may not even be available in future.
>
I suspect if you have a computer that will take that much, the memory is 
no longer a large percentage of that cost.  A lot of computers still have 
small limits, maybe just as simple as the motherboard not having enough 
slots.  So if you have to go to a "premium", the memory won't add much to 
the cost.

But you're right, if you wait, you risk not being able to get the right 
RAM for it, the field moving on so iy becomes expensive.  That's always 
been the case, unless you can scrounge it up.  I could add more RAM to my 
HP 4P printer, but I don't need it. However, I can add it because I pulled 
the RAM out of computers when that sort of thing was common.  Now it's a 
lot scarcer, so the price goes up, even though it's a pretty small amount 
of RAM compared to now.  But nobody makes it anymore, so the price goes 
up.

I've decided, it's actually been two or three years, to get something more 
recent, the exact what has varied as I take time to decide.  It was going 
to be dual core, then quad core, now it's more cutting edge.  I've seen 
ads for servers that looked pretty good spec wise, and usually have lots 
of RAM, except while I don't need great graphics, I don't like the idea of 
not being able to, and servers are limited in that way.

I've been looking at refurbished workstations, one place has one with 
12gigs of RAM, I'll never need that much, but it likely works out cheaper 
than buying something else and then adding RAM.  I'm torn because 
something older will still have serial and parallel ports, and PS/2 
connectors so I can use that 75cent garage sale trackball, while that will 
be gone for something new. But something new is more cutting edge.  So I 
waver, still undecided, and in part because I figure if I buy something, 
the next week will offer up a better refurbished computer for the same 
price.

   Michael

Thread

Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-12 18:16 +1000
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-12 10:50 +0100
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-12 20:21 +1000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-09-17 14:12 +0100
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-17 17:06 +0100
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-09-17 15:30 -0300
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-17 21:17 +0000
              Re: Damned Windows Bloat Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-09-17 21:47 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-17 22:06 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-09-17 23:02 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-18 08:45 +0100
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-18 09:06 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-09-18 14:54 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-09-18 17:45 +0200
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-18 17:07 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-09-18 17:20 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-18 17:21 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-09-18 17:19 -0300
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-09-18 23:38 +0300
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 17:49 -0700
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-09-18 22:26 +0200
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 13:29 -0700
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-09-18 22:34 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-18 18:45 +0200
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-10-02 11:54 +0000
                [OT] light Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.net> - 2016-10-01 14:48 +0000
                Re: [OT] light Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-10-02 13:39 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 10:12 -0700
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-18 17:15 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 12:54 -0700
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-09-18 22:47 +0000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-09-18 17:24 -0300
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-09-18 23:01 +0000
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-09-18 00:42 +0000
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-17 23:30 +0100
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-12 10:35 +0000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-12 10:54 +0000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-12 18:38 +0100
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-12 19:43 +0000
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-13 12:11 +1000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-12 21:13 +0000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2016-10-02 13:48 +0000
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-12 10:40 +0000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-12 23:25 +1000
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat Joe <joecool@ihaveenoughspam.net> - 2016-09-12 21:30 +0000
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat Batchman <batchman@fastmail.fm> - 2016-09-13 09:37 +1000
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat Batchman <batchman@fastmail.fm> - 2016-09-13 11:13 +1000
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-14 08:47 +0100
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Batchman <batchman@fastmail.fm> - 2016-09-15 14:45 +1000
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-16 16:16 +0100
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-16 16:49 +0000
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-09-16 18:44 -0400
              Re: Damned Windows Bloat Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-09-17 09:27 +0000
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-17 11:04 +0200
              Re: Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-18 19:22 +1000
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-18 11:58 +0100
                Re: Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-18 21:33 +1000
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-17 11:25 +0200
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 07:38 +0100
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-13 10:59 +0100
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-09-13 19:20 +0100
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-14 13:17 -0400
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-09-14 14:59 -0400
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-15 11:38 +0100
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-09-15 19:45 +0100
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 14:14 -0700
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-09-15 20:20 -0400
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-15 11:43 +0000
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-09-16 15:41 -0400
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-16 23:56 +0100
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-09-16 19:51 -0400
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-09-17 13:09 +0100
              Re: Damned Windows Bloat Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-09-17 10:26 -0400
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-17 14:39 +1000
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-17 11:14 +0200
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat Vladimir Vučićević <vladimir@vucicevic.iz.rs> - 2016-09-14 15:21 +0200
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat Batchman <batchman@fastmail.fm> - 2016-09-16 14:59 +1000
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-16 11:58 +0100
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-19 23:57 +0100
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-20 22:19 +0100
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-10-21 01:59 +0000
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-21 13:45 +0100
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-10-21 14:24 -0300
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-21 20:46 +0100
            Re: Damned Windows Bloat Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-10-21 22:58 -0400
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-10-21 21:58 +0200
  Re: Damned Windows Bloat bashley@gmail.com - 2016-10-21 14:26 -0700
    Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-22 01:11 +0100
      Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-10-21 23:01 -0700
        Re: Damned Windows Bloat BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-10-22 11:52 +0100
          Re: Damned Windows Bloat The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-10-22 20:37 -0700

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