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Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened?

From Axel Reichert <mail@axel-reichert.de>
Newsgroups gnu.emacs.help
Subject Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened?
Date 2023-03-30 19:07 +0200
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dkcombs@panix.com (dkcombs) writes:

> What other editor even competes with emacs?  ex/vi/vim I suppose;
> anything else?

When a couple of years ago a new employee was struggling with a task I
had assigned to him, to my surprise the editor was the culprit: It
slowed down so much that efficiently editing a 300 MB file was not
possible. I recommended the "youngster" to use Emacs instead of his
current editor (gedit?). After finishing the tutorial he was hooked and
speedily completed the task. However, I felt a little bad about
"forcing" such arcane tools on a fresh colleague, so I investigated a
little using

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_text_editors

as a reference. To my surprise, with only a couple of crucial features,

  - Open Source
  - Available for Windows, macOS, and Linux
  - Editing of large files (> 500 MB)
  - Editing of rectangles/columns
  - Allows for several instances of the editor running simultaneously
  - Allows for opening the same file twice (viewing different parts)
  - Allows for for multiple frames/windows in the same editor instance

only the emacs and vi "editor families" remained in the game. Most of
the other contestants failed miserably with large files, and there was
not even need to assess the features for using regexes both for the
search and replace patterns (which rules out many other candidates as
well).

So there I was, the "last men standing" both born in 1976 (depending on
what you count as the ancestor of the families), rendering my
recommendation to my "recruit" rather reasonable (I am fine with every
vi fan). I informed him about the "bad" news, "Sorry, no newer
alternatives", but he was happily editing away ever since.

I started with emacs in 1995, and one of the good things of using a tool
for so long is that it really pays off to increase your knowledge,
especially about a tool that is so powerful, extensible, and well
documented. This way, power really grows on you.

Best regards

Axel

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10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger.  What happened? dkcombs@panix.com (dkcombs) - 2023-03-26 23:30 +0000
  Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger.  What happened? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2023-03-26 21:26 -0400
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