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Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened?

From Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Newsgroups gnu.emacs.help
Subject Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened?
Date 2023-04-05 21:45 -0400
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Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:

> HASM <hasm@example.invalid> writes:
>
>> ben> Postfix chooses the account based on the address in the mail being
>> ben> sent.
>>
>> I do this too, but that's a different subject.  For me postfix not only
>> chooses an account to send "from" but also the relay to use with "to".
>
> Of course.  I'm not sure what you thought I meant.   Once postfix has
> the mail, it relays it based on the from header.
>
>>>> The password map needs to be updated periodically, as the keys expire
>>
>>> But I don't have to do this.
>>
>> Guess I have to update my setup.  As described, e.g. here:
>>
>>   https://mmogilvi.users.sourceforge.net/software/oauthbearer.html
>
> I don't do it that way.  I went the route described as step 1 in that
> document:
>
>   1. Configure your gmail (or equivalent) account to enable IMAP and/or
>   POP access. If it will let you set up an "application password"
>   instead of OAUTH2, that would generally be a whole lot simpler and
>   arguably just as secure.
>
> but for SMTP sending.
>
> Thanks for the link.  One day I am sure I will be forced to do it the
> hard way.
>
>> it seems that both fetchmail and postfix can now renew the oauth2 token,
>> but this wasn't the case when I implemented my solution. At the time it
>> was only possible by patching fetchmail (and maybe postfix), which I
>> didn't want to do and maintain.
>
> When I did it, there was no oauth2 (as far as I can recall) and I've
> used the same setup, unchanged, since then.

I don't see any "application password" option.


-- 
Dan Espen

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