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Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery

From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery
Date 2026-01-22 03:31 -0800
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 05:28:16 -0500
> BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just randomly thinking again about some things I noticed with audio
>> at low sample rates.
>>
>> For baseline, can note, basic sample rates:
>>    44100:  Standard, sounds good, but bulky
>>    32000:  Sounds good
>>    22050:  Moderate
>>    16000:  OK, Modest size, acceptable quality.
>>      Seems like best tradeoff if not going for high quality.
>>    11025:  Poor, muffled.
>>     8000:  Very poor, speech almost unintelligible (normally).
>>       But, it is seeming like a "weird hack" may exist here.
>
> 8000 x 8bit (mu-law in USA, A-law in majority of the world) was a
> standard sampling rate for digital back ends of analog wired telephony
> for more than 50 years.  I didn't check, but would assume that it still
> is.
> Most people founded it quite intelligible.

Yes but bit rate isn't the whole story.  First the measure is not
"good sound" but only "understandable sound".  Second telephony
does frequency filtering in a very different way than digital
audio does.  Voices on phones are recognizable but still easily
differentiable from the original.  Music played via phone-quality
audio sounds terrible.

> Certainly more intelligible
> than cellular telephony, until less then 20 years ago cellular improved
> a little.

Cell phone audio...  even today, ick, double ick, and triple ick.

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Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 05:28 -0500
  Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-09-06 16:21 +0000
    Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 13:54 -0500
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 13:18 -0700
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 15:42 -0500
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 14:37 -0700
    Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-09-07 12:26 +0200
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-07 14:59 -0500
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-09-07 21:13 +0000
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-07 18:58 -0500
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-09-07 21:16 -0500
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-07 22:55 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-09-08 06:49 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 23:28 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-09-09 07:06 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-09 18:47 +0300
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 20:27 -0500
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-09-07 21:12 +0000
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-09-08 10:59 +0200
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 15:10 -0500
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-09-08 21:10 +0000
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 18:57 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-08 21:49 -0500
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-09-09 15:06 +0200
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 14:13 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-09-09 20:55 +0000
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 14:15 -0700
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-09-09 14:17 -0700
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-09-09 23:23 +0200
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-09-08 17:57 -0400
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-09-08 23:51 +0000
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-09-09 15:51 +0200
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-09-12 13:01 -0400
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-09-12 12:23 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-09-12 20:32 +0200
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-09-14 07:43 -0400
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-09-14 15:08 +0200
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-09-12 18:58 +0000
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-12 14:30 -0500
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-09-12 14:46 -0500
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-22 03:18 -0800
    Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-11 01:35 +0000
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-09-11 15:06 +0000
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-09-11 15:59 +0000
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-19 02:10 +0000
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-11 12:56 -0500
  Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2025-09-06 11:59 -0500
    Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery "Brian G. Lucas" <bagel99@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 12:31 -0500
  Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-09-06 20:52 +0300
    Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-06 14:19 -0500
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-11 01:33 +0000
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-09-11 02:05 -0500
    Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-22 03:31 -0800
      Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 15:21 -0600
        Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-23 00:13 +0000
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-01-22 18:36 -0600
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-23 02:00 +0000
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-01-22 20:20 -0600
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 02:25 -0600
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2026-01-23 11:43 +0200
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 05:27 -0600
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-23 15:49 +0000
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-23 17:37 +0100
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2026-01-23 18:56 +0200
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-23 18:14 +0100
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-14 20:44 -0800
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-15 02:11 -0600
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-01-23 11:07 -0600
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 14:52 -0600
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-23 15:36 +0000
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-01-23 15:35 -0800
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-14 20:57 -0800
              Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> - 2026-02-15 09:09 -0600
                Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:40 -0700
          Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-22 17:04 -0800
            Re: Random/OT: Low sample rate audio weirdness/mystery BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-01-23 05:13 -0600

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