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| From | Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.sys.pdp11 |
| Subject | Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? |
| Date | 2024-11-14 10:14 +0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <6ff999f9-9931-9822-c9ad-7d5b220abb7f@googlemail.com> (permalink) |
| References | <8327c51b-7eb9-08a4-3529-3a76bbd1b4a6@googlemail.com> |
On Tue, 12 Nov 2024, Robin Haberkorn wrote: > Here's a TECO "family tree" I reconstructed from various sources: > > https://github.com/rhaberkorn/sciteco/wiki/The-other-modern-TECO-implementations#teco-family-tree > I found a journal called "Moby Munger" - "The official organ of the TECO Special Interest Group". That's a very interesting read! Google it. There were at least 3 editions. I didn't know there was a real actual TECO journal! It contains information about various TECO dialects. It seems everybody back then "munged" his own dialect or fork. The family tree needs to be extended at least with: * VTECO on TOPS-20 and TV based on that * WPI TECO on TOPS-10 based on TECO(-10?) v23 * Stevens TECO based on TECO v23 * XTEC on TOPS-10 and ITS based on Stevens TECO. That was a real actual TECO compiler! There is also some info here: https://sources.vsta.org:7100/teco/file?name=doc/tecolore.txt&ci=tip I especially find that one interesting because they had to solve the parseability problem of TECO and they did that differently than SciTECO. While in SciTECO I fixed the number of string arguments for each command - which seemed to be least intrusive - XTEC fixed the number of integer arguments, including macro calls. * Multics TECO based on early ITS/MIT TECO. * TEC65 on 6502 CPUs * Harvard UNIX TECO based on 1973 MIT TECO And countless others! By the way, hasn't there been any TECO for MS-DOS? It's interesting to read the "Moby Munger" because it conveys the feeling of a lively "scene". We don't have that today. Even SciTECO is only seriously used by a handful of people. But should it ever "fly" again, we should definitely revive the "Moby Munger" in one way or another. Maybe as a conference handout or just as a PDF. -- Robin
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Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-15 15:21 -1000
Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 01:52 +0000
Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-16 03:03 +0100
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