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Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?

From Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org>
Newsgroups alt.sys.pdp11
Subject Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?
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Date 2024-11-14 06:51 +0000
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> Robin Haberkorn wrote:
>> If you have any kind of interesting pictures, eg. of people actually
>> using TECO on a PDP (whether CRT or hardcopy terminal), I would be
>> glad to see them
> I have found a film clip of someone using PDP-6 TECO on a 340 display.
> It's probably from around 1967.

Maybe Two clips.  There isn't much that is known with certainty about
these clips.  We know they are from MIT, and that they feature at lot of
AI lab hardware.

The first is at the beginning of
https://projects.csail.mit.edu/video/history/aifilms/43-arm.mp4
The clip shows a display that is commonly used with DEC's Type 340 and
similar devices.  We can't be 100% sure it's the one attached to the AI
lab PDP-6, but it seems very likely.  The text of the display is very
similar to old ITS source code, which is consistent with the assumed
time frame of the film collection.  The use of "↓14" to display a FF
control character is consistent with recovered copies of TECO-6.

The second is one minute into this:
https://projects.csail.mit.edu/video/history/aifilms/75-logo.mp4
I'm even less sure about this one.  Someone is typing in text one
character at a time.  That's not very TECO-like, but according to some
AI memo from back then, there were experiments in doing so.  Next, a
blinking bar cursor appears; this is consistent with TECO-6 displaying
on the 340.  Then the text abruptly changes, which is what we would
expect if someone ran a TECO command string.

It's kind of amazing that in this very moment, I'm typing this in a
descendant of the text editor in those clips.

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Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-12 16:50 +0300
  Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:03 -0800
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-12 20:49 +0300
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-12 20:02 +0000
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-12 12:47 -0800
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-14 22:20 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-11-14 23:50 +0000
  Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-11-12 15:55 -0500
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-12 20:09 -0800
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-13 11:30 +0300
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-13 10:25 -0800
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-11-13 14:36 -0500
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-13 15:12 -0800
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 06:29 +0000
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-14 22:24 +0000
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-13 11:46 +0300
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-11-13 09:00 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-13 15:30 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-13 10:29 -0800
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-13 10:31 +0300
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-13 19:11 +0000
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 10:00 +0300
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2024-12-02 23:58 +0100
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2024-12-03 16:38 -0500
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-12-04 08:24 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2024-12-04 17:48 +0100
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-12-04 18:36 +0000
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-01-08 17:19 +0100
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2025-01-09 08:29 +0000
  Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-13 14:28 +0000
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-14 09:44 +0300
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 07:03 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-14 10:34 +0300
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 08:05 +0000
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 08:25 +0000
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-14 17:42 +0300
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-14 17:09 +0300
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-16 15:37 +0000
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2024-12-03 00:07 +0100
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-12-03 18:55 +0300
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2024-12-04 17:45 +0100
          Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-14 22:19 +0000
            Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-14 14:34 -0800
              Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 00:03 +0000
            Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:23 -0800
              Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 01:52 +0000
            Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-15 16:26 +0300
              Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-15 11:25 -0800
                Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 04:47 +0300
              Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 22:13 +0000
                Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-15 15:08 -0800
                Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 05:11 +0300
                Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 03:28 +0000
                Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 10:33 +0300
                Re: Interactive Development (was Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 21:53 +0000
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 06:51 +0000
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-14 10:35 +0300
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 07:56 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-14 22:26 +0000
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2024-11-15 07:24 +0000
  Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-14 10:14 +0300
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2024-11-14 07:55 +0000
  Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-14 22:11 +0000
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-15 01:40 +0100
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 01:56 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-15 14:28 +0100
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 21:58 +0000
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-16 01:18 +0100
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2024-11-15 15:21 -1000
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 01:52 +0000
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-16 03:03 +0100
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 03:33 +0000
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-16 15:14 +0000
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-11-16 22:21 +0000
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "John H. Reinhardt" <johnhreinhardt@thereinhardts.org> - 2024-11-16 18:01 -0600
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-17 18:12 +0000
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-11-17 18:57 +0000
                Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-11-16 21:05 +0100
    Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-15 15:49 +0300
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-15 16:51 +0300
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 22:01 +0000
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-11-15 15:41 -0800
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2024-11-16 22:32 +0000
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 05:03 +0300
            Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 03:35 +0000
              Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 10:20 +0300
      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-15 22:10 +0000
        Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Robin Haberkorn <robin.haberkorn@googlemail.com> - 2024-11-16 05:09 +0300
          Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-16 03:40 +0000
  Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-11-18 16:57 -0500
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      Re: Any interesting PDP/TECO photos out there? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-11-19 11:51 -0500

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