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Re: Relativity and the nature of light. Waves or particles?

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Richard Hachel wrote:
> 
> Le 22/10/2024 à 22:29, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
> :
> > Richard Hachel: Re: "The two lightnings will be simultaneous for the
> > station master, but ALSO for the traveler." Sound is constrained to one
> > speed in the atmosphere. The person walking towards the ambulance will
> > hear the siren at S + 3 mph. You are denying that. You are making an
> > irrational denial of relative motion, as shown by the analogy to sound.
> 
> You are making a mistake by equating sound and light.
> They are not the same physical principle of propagation.
> 
> Sound propagates in a medium, and depends on the quality of this medium.
> 
> Light propagates in "nothing at all", or rather, does not propagate.
> 
> Sound has a medium: air.
> 
> Light has no medium, and it was a mistake to look for something that could
> support its propagation.
> 
> Light is an instantaneous transaction of energy between two atoms, so we
> cannot really talk about "propagation" which requires a speed, that is to
> say a ratio of distance over time.
> 
> The question is what gives light an aspect of propagation when there is no
> propagation? What gives it a wave-like appearance, when there is no wave?
> What gives it the appearance of a particle when there is no particle.
> 
> If you think about it, what the photon seems to be surfing on is not an
> ether, it is not something metric, it is not something compact.
> 
> It is simply universal enisochrony.
> 
> In short, the photon does not exist, but seems to exist, and if we had to
> propose something on which it surfs, it would be spatial anisochornia.
> 
> In short, it surfs on time.
> 
> By crossing space, it crosses time for the observer who studies it, and
> thus gives an impression of speed, of surfing on "this time".
> 
> But this is only an illusion. Between the two atoms, between here and
> there, there is nothing at all; not the slightest existence.
> 
> When the quantum leaves the atom, it is already instantly at the level of
> an atom of the receiver.
> 
> Niet, ether.
> 
> R.H.


Light, it's particle...existed BEFORE the big bang. The big bang gave
light it's mass.

Before the big bang, Light traveled without space or time...in a
straight line.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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