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Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> Now, as relativity itself, this forum is becoming obsolete.
> 
> No new ideas, no wit, no humor, no great insights. Only a few topics, repeated
> "ad nauseum" by Einstein's widows.
> 
> It's sad to witness how "die hard" relativists started to gave up months ago,
> after years of sterile attempts to explain why relativity MATTERS at any field
> of modern science, or the instructive lectures about what is the essence of
> a physicist, based on his/her perception of how Nature seems to work.
> 
> It reminds me about the life and doings of one failed physicist, that only got
> one Nobel Prize in Physics, just by chance, and that allowed Einstein to publish:
> 
> Wilhelm Carl Werner Otto Fritz Franz Wien (Willy, for friends).
> https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Wien/
> 
> Those who have been demoralized to pursue a career in physics by the ones
> that no longer are posting here, should read (in depth, and think) about his
> history, preciously narrated in the link above.
> 
> Maybe Einstein did know about Wien's history, as he was an inept errand
> until he was 24, and Wien gave him a decisive help to start a career.
> 
> Some facts about Willy Wien:
> 
> - Born in 1864, a child of noble Prussian roots, was given six names by his parents, to mark his social relevance (they ruined the life of the poor Willy).
> 
> - He was a lonely child, groomed by his father to learn agriculture, as he
>   thought it was Willy's destiny to manage family's properties.
> 
> - Being 11, showed little enthusiasm for academic work. He had not been
>   prepared for study at the Gymnasium, and he was poorly prepared for
>   mathematics courses. As he didn't progress, at the age of 16, his father
>   made him to return home in 1880, to learn to become a farmer.
> 
> -  However, his mother wanted him to gain some academic skills, so his
>    parents arranged private tutors. He was then sent to study at the
>   Königsberg Altstädtisches Gymnasium, where Sommerfeld and Minkowski
>   were pupils, and Wien then started to make good academic progress,
>   graduating from high school in 1882, being 18 years old.
> 
> - Wien's mother encouraged him to continue his education, so he enrolled
>  at the University of Göttingen where he studied mathematics and natural
>  sciences but became bored with the courses, and he quit after six months.
>  He returned to his parents' farm with the intention of learning to run the
>  farm but, somehow, suffered an existential crisis that let him to restart his
>  study, at the University of Berlin, the next year (1883).
> 
> - Love for physics came to him being almost 20 y.o., when started to work
>   at the lab with von Helmholtz: "... really came in contact with physics for
>   the first time", he remembered later. He earned his doctoral degree in 1896
>   but with less than excellent notes. No professor encouraged him to keep
>   building a career in physics, so he returned to the farm, to help his parents,
>   which started to become ill.
> 
> - Helmholtz himself reinforced Wien's doubts about physics, maintaining that
>   as an only son he should take over his parents' property; if he wished, he
>   could always pursue scientific research as a hobby.
> 
> - Wien was in a difficult position, unsure of his abilities in physics, but always
>   very sure of his lack of skill for taking over running the farm. He found
>   communicating with the farm workers difficult, and he even failed trying
>   to make a good purchase of a horse. Despite this he took his professors'
>   advice and for over three years he worked as a farmer, doing research in
>   physics as a hobby.
> 
> - Still, he managed to take a semester working again with von Helmholtz. His
>   parents moved to Berlin, and became seriously ill, dying by 1890. In that
>   year, Bismarck was dismissed as Emperor and Wien felt that a new era had
>   opened up for him.
> 
> - Over the next few years he carried out work of exceptional quality which led
>   to the award of a Nobel Prize in physics but in 1890 his first priority was to
>   work on his habilitation thesis.
> 
> - Wien's career took off and, in 1893, working at the  Physikalisch-Technische
>   Reichsanstalt (PTR), the most advanced laboratory in the world, discovered
>   his Displacement Law of Blackbody Radiation, having invented first the
>   "perfect black body cavity", which allowed studies of its internal radiation.
>    Only this contribution made him famous worldwide, as he had found the
>    way to measure temperature of radiation, key for industrial process.
> 
> - In 1896, he adventured a theory about the spectral distribution of radiation
>   within a BBC, which was fully compliant with experiments for wavelengths
>   above 100 micrometers. It would be Planck, in 1900, and with heavy help of
>   experimental physicists, new technologies and information about what
>   Rayleigh was doing at England, that added a missing term in Wien's equation
>  plus the discovery of the quantum of energy "h" in Dec. 1900.
> 
> - Meanwhile, Wien HAD DISCOVERED the proton, as early as 1899. He had
>   invented the first mass-spectrograph and laid the foundation of mass
>   spectroscopy. J J Thomson refined Wien's apparatus and conducted
>   further experiments in 1913 then, after work by E Rutherford in 1919, Wien's
>   particle was accepted and named the proton.
> 
> - His studies on the diffraction of x-rays by crystals was the earliest work in
>   this area, coming five years before the discoveries made by Max von Laue.
> 
> - Besides his 1903 Nobel Prize for his Law of Displacement, Wien became a
>   permanent Chief Editor of Annalen der Physik in 1906, unitl his death in 1928.
>   He worked those 22 years, sharing with Planck the position of Directors
>   of the famous journal.
> 
> - Wien had 3professorship positions since 1899, the last one for 20 years.
>   By 1900 he was an internationally acclaimed physicist and received many
>   invitations to lecture throughout the world. In 1914 Wien published Ziele
> und Methoden der theoetische Physik Ⓣ. In this work he gave his views on
> the difference between mathematical physics and theoretical physics.
> 
> - Wien had a "friendly", long term, dispute with Planck about the value of
>   pure theoretical physics, as he considered that a physicist had to manage
>   both experimental and theoretical physics. He punished Heisenberg with
>   an average degree on his doctoral degree for his fail on experimental
>   physics.
> 
> If you're interested, you can read his biography at the link above.
> 
> Why do I write this post? Very simple: for me, Willy Wien is the encarnation
> of the struggle of the human being to insist finding what the future will be
> for him, and a PROOF of that our future is lying on our hands and spirit. Even
> not knowing what will come, the mystery of life is revealed when you are old
> and REALIZE that what you achieved was ALWAYS in your hands, and that
> you are the architect of your own future (even if you don't know yet).
> 
> Now, compare Wien's struggle to get somewhere with Planck, Einstein and
> so many others.
> 
> You are not born a physicist. Physics FIND YOU, if you persist.
> 
> Only a bunch of people are born as geniuses. Maybe 1 in 100 millions. I,
> particularly, think in that way of Maxwell, Gauss, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart
> and, maybe, Newton.
> 
> Einstein? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH!

Newton, Mozart, Einstein, etc., all had Autism, what was then known as...retardation.

They were all born retarded, not geniuses.

I see, most of yous don't understand the definition of retarded...

look at Jerry Lewis doing a Nutty Proffesor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9PCIwhsmU


or ask any 1st grade kid to draw a picture of what they think a scientist looks like...
crazy retarded drawings all of them.



Now, ...ask Nature, "What is a scientist?"

and Nature will bring forth this:
https://static.standaard.be/Assets/Images_Upload/2018/03/14/65cea6ca-279e-11e8-8efd-583b7c4e6b07.jpg


a pattern begins to form...








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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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