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Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet?
Date 2022-04-22 21:24 -0700
Organization The Starmaker Organization
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:02:27 PM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > > On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)...
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the
> > > > > >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the
> > > > > >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International
> > > > > >>> Astronomical Union (IAU).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The votes are rigged.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and
> > > > > >>> belongs in the trash can.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> you should know dis by now.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the
> > > > > >>> IAU members, except the big guy.)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they
> > > > > >>> kill him.
> > > > > >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth
> > > > > >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare)
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > >> and challenge
> > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the
> > > > > > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason.
> > > > > >
> > > > > [snip meltdown]
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since
> > > > > all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared
> > > > > of objects other than themselves.
> > > >
> > > > Read my post, above, with detailed info directly from IAU database, imbecile.
> > > >
> > > > It's the Apr 20, 2022, 2:39:19 AM post (your local time, mine minus one hour).
> > >
> > > Jupiter not a planet?
> > >
> > > If they are going to use 'definitions' to define planet, then the Earth
> > > is not a planet...
> > > since there ain't anything like it anywhere in the universe.
> >
> > Truth is...the word "dwarf planets" was invented when they voted Pluto
> > not a planet. Before that, the term "dwarf planets" never existed.
> >
> > They just made it up.
> 
> Hell, they made up everything!
> 
> The vote took place at the August 2006 IAU meeting in Prague, which
> included 424 voting members (out of a total membership of 9,000). The
> majority vote was for Pluto to be redesignated as a dwarf planet
> 
> "Pluto is not a planet," Brown said. "There are finally, officially,
> eight planets in the solar system."
> 
> The vote involved just 424 astronomers who remained for the last day of
> a meeting of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in Prague.
> 
> "I'm embarassed for astornomy," said Alan Stern, leader of NASA's New
> Horizon's mission to Pluto and a scientist at the Southwest Research
> Institute. "Less than 5 percent of the world's astronomers voted."
> 
> "This definition stinks, for technical reasons," Stern told SPACE.com.
> 
> The vote was scheduled at the end of a 10 day conference in Prague when
> almost everyone had left. Only 424 of nearly 10,000 members remained.
> 
> IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers, opened the session stating that the IAU
> was asked to act on the planet definition issue. He stressed that prior
> proposals were delayed because cultural and popular issues needed to be
> considered.
> 
> Ekers stated that this was not just a scientific debate and that the
> issue cannot be resolved by science alone. "This is not just a
> scientific issue of what is correct. There is no correct answer to this
> question."
> 
> "The question is; what is a sensible compromise that will not just work
> for the professionals in the field but will work for everybody who is
> interested the sky, the planets, is curious, is educating and so on."
> 
> After Mr. Ekers and a panel member read two overwhelmingly positive and
> zero dissenting messages from colleagues on the pending resolutions he
> called for a show of hands however; 15 IAU members stepped forward to
> speak. The first 14 speakers were dissenting, and generally cut off by
> Mr. Ekers. The contentious and angry dissention included voters "not
> being properly consulted" and receiving the changed resolutions "just
> now as entering the session."
> 
> The response from Ekers; "the last step of the proposals was done in
> secret to keep them from the press." It seems that a lot of people were
> interested in this outcome and were getting in the way of the desired
> outcome of the rogue scientists.
> 
> These IAU members strongly dissented stating that the decision to vote
> was rushed, more debate needs to take place, the vote should be
> postponed and that "what was being presented was an insult to the entire
> astronomical institution."
> 
> The 15th and final speaker was recognized and stated that he was no
> scientist but that he wanted to say that the committee was doing a great
> job.
> 
> A movement by prominent scientists to meet mid-2007 to organize an
> electronic vote by the full membership did not succeed.
> 
> IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers is the motherfucker. A crank.


Of course, IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers doesn't want electronic voting...

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-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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