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Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Tricky questions: How old is each planet? What happened with the 5th. planet?
Date 2022-04-22 20:47 -0700
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 8:02:27 PM UTC-3, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > On 4/20/2022 2:17 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 2:54:28 PM UTC-3, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Officially, according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU), the Solar System comprises:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Not according with the International Astronomical Union (IAU)...
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> All of it's members (IAU) do not agree with with findings of the
> > > > >>> International Astronomical Union (IAU).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Those members (IAU) who disagree are not allowed to vote on the
> > > > >>> findings, so the findings are fraudalent.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It is one or two that make the findings at the International
> > > > >>> Astronomical Union (IAU).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The votes are rigged.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In otherwords, whatever the big guy sez ...goes.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It's a garbage union. Anything that comes out of it is...garbage, and
> > > > >>> belongs in the trash can.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> you should know dis by now.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> There is no one here that would disagree with that (including all of the
> > > > >>> IAU members, except the big guy.)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In the Italian Mafia, if the members disagree with the big guy...they
> > > > >>> kill him.
> > > > >> The question you should be asking is not what happened to the fifth
> > > > >> planet....but what happened to the nineth planet? (if you dare)
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > >> and challenge
> > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Whit this criteria, Jupiter should not be demoted as a planet anymore. TheTrojan cloud, asteroids that occupy more than 20% of the
> > > > > Jupiter’s orbital path, following the giant, should be enough reason.
> > > > >
> > > > [snip meltdown]
> > > >
> > > > Let me guess. There are no planets other than Mercury and Venus, since
> > > > all the other "planets" all have moons, so their orbits are not cleared
> > > > of objects other than themselves.
> > >
> > > Read my post, above, with detailed info directly from IAU database, imbecile.
> > >
> > > It's the Apr 20, 2022, 2:39:19 AM post (your local time, mine minus one hour).
> >
> > Jupiter not a planet?
> >
> > If they are going to use 'definitions' to define planet, then the Earth
> > is not a planet...
> > since there ain't anything like it anywhere in the universe.
> 
> Truth is...the word "dwarf planets" was invented when they voted Pluto
> not a planet. Before that, the term "dwarf planets" never existed.
> 
> They just made it up.

Hell, they made up everything!

The vote took place at the August 2006 IAU meeting in Prague, which
included 424 voting members (out of a total membership of 9,000). The
majority vote was for Pluto to be redesignated as a dwarf planet

"Pluto is not a planet," Brown said. "There are finally, officially,
eight planets in the solar system."

The vote involved just 424 astronomers who remained for the last day of
a meeting of the International Astronomical Union (IAU) in Prague.

"I'm embarassed for astornomy," said Alan Stern, leader of NASA's New
Horizon's mission to Pluto and a scientist at the Southwest Research
Institute. "Less than 5 percent of the world's astronomers voted."

"This definition stinks, for technical reasons," Stern told SPACE.com. 

The vote was scheduled at the end of a 10 day conference in Prague when
almost everyone had left. Only 424 of nearly 10,000 members remained.

IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers, opened the session stating that the IAU
was asked to act on the planet definition issue. He stressed that prior
proposals were delayed because cultural and popular issues needed to be
considered.

Ekers stated that this was not just a scientific debate and that the
issue cannot be resolved by science alone. "This is not just a
scientific issue of what is correct. There is no correct answer to this
question."

"The question is; what is a sensible compromise that will not just work
for the professionals in the field but will work for everybody who is
interested the sky, the planets, is curious, is educating and so on."

After Mr. Ekers and a panel member read two overwhelmingly positive and
zero dissenting messages from colleagues on the pending resolutions he
called for a show of hands however; 15 IAU members stepped forward to
speak. The first 14 speakers were dissenting, and generally cut off by
Mr. Ekers. The contentious and angry dissention included voters "not
being properly consulted" and receiving the changed resolutions "just
now as entering the session."

The response from Ekers; "the last step of the proposals was done in
secret to keep them from the press." It seems that a lot of people were
interested in this outcome and were getting in the way of the desired
outcome of the rogue scientists.

These IAU members strongly dissented stating that the decision to vote
was rushed, more debate needs to take place, the vote should be
postponed and that "what was being presented was an insult to the entire
astronomical institution."

The 15th and final speaker was recognized and stated that he was no
scientist but that he wanted to say that the committee was doing a great
job.

A movement by prominent scientists to meet mid-2007 to organize an
electronic vote by the full membership did not succeed.


IAU President, Ronald d. Ekers is the motherfucker. A crank. 





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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