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Re: Permissions

From Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Permissions
Date 2015-07-02 16:03 -0400
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On 7/2/2015 12:36 PM, J0HNS0N wrote:
> Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> If Google or Huawei want information "about the device
>> and system data to improve the accuracy of our services", that should be
>> a separate, optional permission which a user can grant if he wants to
>> but won't disable his software if he doesn't.
>
> No one makes anyone buy an Android phone. Perhaps you guys would be
> happier with an Apple product where getting access to the file system
> is very difficult. And as I recall from my Apple days they never asked
> my permission for anything. I'm guessing they just took it.

I think I'd like the iPhone, but I can get all the phone service I need 
with Android and Tracfone on a cheap phone and $8/month.  Some people I 
know with iPhones are paying more than ten times that much, albeit for 
better phones and services that I don't need.

The business model of some modern American Internet companies, including 
Google, is to provide services to users for free but collect data from 
those users and sell it to undisclosed buyers for whatever purpose they 
want.

It's true that we don't have to use Google's services, or for that 
matter, any smartphones.

However, if you think it's appropriate for Google, Apple, and Microsoft 
to do whatever they want, including selling undisclosed parts of our 
information to undisclosed buyers for undisclosed purposes, then surely 
it must also be appropriate for us to exercise the same freedom in how 
we use their services.  That includes using our own security software, 
like firewalls, to stymie their intrusions.

I don't feel any compulsion to take Google services as they are or not 
use them at all.  I think we have a perfect right to put up firewalls 
and block intrusions from them or anyone else.

    Alan

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Permissions  F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-01 23:22 +1000
  Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-01 15:08 -0700
  Re: Permissions Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 16:03 -0400
    Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 15:08 -0700
      Re: Permissions Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2015-07-02 20:26 -0400
        Re: Permissions F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-03 11:02 +1000
          Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 23:03 -0700
        Re: Permissions The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2015-07-02 18:39 -0700
        Re: Permissions J0HNS0N <12J0HNSON1022@92300nomail.com> - 2015-07-02 23:03 -0700
        Re: Permissions Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2015-07-03 19:08 +0000
  Re: Permissions F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-07-03 11:04 +1000

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