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Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!)

From Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk>
Subject Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!)
Newsgroups comp.sys.acorn.misc
Date 2012-03-08 10:19 +0000
Message-ID <526d2e6205noise@audiomisc.co.uk> (permalink)
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In article <fIxm7.2485$lk6.889698@orpheusnews>, Felicity S.
<Fliss@orpheusnet> wrote:
> Jim Lesurf wrote:



> > However by experiment I found that simply changing around which USB
> > ports were used for external devices markedly altered how often this
> > happened. The same devices were connected.


> What was the winning configuration from your USB port experiment?

I have keyboard and mouse going via a PS2 to USB adaptor. Now plugged into
the USB port at the back which is on the right as veiwed from the front of
the Iyonix. (Printer on the left-back, normally not 'on'.) 4-way powered
USB hub plugged into the top USB connector.

My wife's Iyonix now has nothing connected to the back USB ports. Her
mouse, keyboard, and printer are all connected via a 4 way powered hub
connected to the top port at the front.

She has a USB keyboard and mouse. Her machine used to fail to start about 1
time in three. At the time the mouse and keyboard used the ports at the
back. (Printer in the lower front.) Out of curiosity I tried experimenting.
The first discovery was that swapping over keyboard and mouse at the back
meant that the mouse didn't work when the machine did boot up. I tried
other mice and keyboards, and found that it was pot luck which arrangements
using the back ports either had one device or t'other not work, or had both
work. So I concluded that trying to get anything working via the ports at
the back was 'iffy' and switched to the current arrangement.

Her machine does still sometimes fail to boot. But far less often than used
to be the case.

> Our keyboard & mouse are plugged in at the back, while the front has a
> coffee-warming USB hub with memory sticks in two of its four slots.

Have you tried putting the mouse and keyboard also into the hub? And maybe
not having the sticks plugged in at bootup? I can't say if this will make
any difference. But experiments here certainly made differences.

Slainte,

Jim

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                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 18:20 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 09:44 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 11:09 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-14 12:59 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-17 17:26 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> - 2012-03-17 20:05 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-18 16:37 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-18 18:29 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-18 21:01 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! M Harding <riscos@mdharding.org.uk> - 2012-03-18 12:03 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Barry Allen (news)" <evanallen@onetel.net.uk.invalid> - 2012-03-18 13:55 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-17 20:57 +0100
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 21:09 +0100
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 15:13 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-13 10:28 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 11:20 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 13:27 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-10 13:43 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 15:14 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-03-10 20:13 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-10 22:43 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-10 23:53 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-11 16:18 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron Briscoe <ron.briscoe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 17:40 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Sprow <news@sprow.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 23:38 -0800
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Alan Dawes <alan.dawes@argonet.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 14:25 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2012-03-06 14:40 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-06 16:47 +0100
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-02 00:35 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-02 10:12 +0100
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-02 20:14 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-02 23:27 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-03 19:29 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 21:37 +0100
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 22:18 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Hughes <news@noonehere.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 22:37 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 08:16 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 13:15 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-05 20:36 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 22:30 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-03 22:26 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:08 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-09 01:58 +0100
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-11 14:57 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 19:19 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Dave Symes <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 20:37 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-03 20:31 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! T M Smith <thomas.smith57@ntlworld.com> - 2012-03-03 22:25 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 12:58 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-03 17:27 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 20:07 +0100
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-04 14:11 +0000
          Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 11:04 +0000
            Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 21:58 +0100
            Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-04 23:56 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 01:00 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 13:02 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Dave Wisnia at home <david@wisnia.net> - 2012-03-06 15:52 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-07 11:37 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Chris Bell <news@highpath.net> - 2012-03-07 12:11 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) ChrisF <c.n.l.f@virgin.net> - 2012-03-16 03:37 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Robin Hounsome <robin@hounsome.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 16:34 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-06 19:27 +0000
            Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 09:27 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Chris Evans <chris@cjemicros.co.uk> - 2012-03-05 13:05 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-07 18:47 +0000
                Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Jim Lesurf <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> - 2012-03-08 10:19 +0000
              Re: Iyonix startup (was Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18!) Harriet Bazley <bazley@feathermail.co.uk> - 2012-03-13 21:32 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:37 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ron <beeb@woosh.co.nz> - 2012-03-09 11:42 +1300
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:06 +0000
  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Rob Hemmings (news2)" <robnews@rgvk.co.uk> - 2012-03-01 20:54 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-01 23:44 +0100
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-03 17:26 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl> - 2012-03-03 23:35 +0100
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-04 14:09 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Peter Young <pnyoung@ormail.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 16:42 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tony Moore <old_coaster@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-04 19:04 +0000
  Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-01 22:37 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-02 07:34 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2012-03-02 08:17 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! C J Craig <Chris@skipton.demon.co.uk> - 2012-03-02 10:33 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Ian Hamilton <Ian.Hamilton@AAUG.net> - 2012-03-02 10:50 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Martin Wuerthner <spamtrap@mw-software.com> - 2012-03-02 15:06 +0100
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-02 15:09 +0000
            Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-02 13:24 +0000
              Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-07 09:27 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Russell Hafter News <see.sig@walkingingermany.invalid> - 2012-03-07 10:18 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2012-03-07 21:06 +0000
                Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2012-03-11 10:10 +0000
    Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Felicity S." <Fliss@orpheusnet> - 2012-03-03 17:24 +0000
      Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Rick Murray <heyrickmail-usenet@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 20:01 +0100
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Chris Johnson <chrisjohnson+news@spamcop.net> - 2012-03-03 20:35 +0000
        Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! "Ste (news)" <steve@revi11.plus.com> - 2012-03-04 01:43 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2012-03-04 11:47 +0000
          Re: The good, the bad and the RO 5.18! Jess <phantasm_39@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-08 13:35 +0000

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